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Blackface, its origins, and what it's morphed to be seen as today
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:57 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:57 am
It's my understanding that Blackface originated a long-long time ago and was meant to be a caricature of the whole race. Sometime in the 20th century, people decided that this portrayal was cruel / offensive. That opinion hasn't really changed up to today. What has changed, though, is how people define what "blackface" means. Now, blackface is simply the act of wearing black make-up if you are not black, no matter your intention of doing it. It's my understanding that people originally found "blackface" as offensive because it was used with an intention to mock a race. But now, simply dressing up as someone for halloween of the opposite race (even if it is to celebrate a person that you admire) is seen as offensive. Outrage culture has got to stop and people need to take 2 huge steps and look at themselves and ask why am I supposed to be upset about these things?
IMO, I don't see anything wrong with wearing a freaking costume. It's not supposed to be serious. Shocking sometimes? Maybe. In the VA governor's case, the people in the yearbook photo weren't mocking a particular race, but obviously making a joke about a Klansman and a black person hanging out together. I see no difference in two people dressing up as a Jew and a Nazi or Hitler and going together for Halloween. It's not some jab at Jews, it's a situational joke.
I don't think the VA governor should resign over this, nor do I think anyone should be held to the fire for something like this, no matter what their political views are. I do agree that it puts Democrats in a difficult position, because they have created this culture that demonizes this very thing. The problem is, that they've got so caught up in demonizing all these things that they think only Republicans do / did, that they've totally disregarded the fact that many of these things are done or were done by everyone, no matter your political background. As some would say, they are eating themselves.
IMO, I don't see anything wrong with wearing a freaking costume. It's not supposed to be serious. Shocking sometimes? Maybe. In the VA governor's case, the people in the yearbook photo weren't mocking a particular race, but obviously making a joke about a Klansman and a black person hanging out together. I see no difference in two people dressing up as a Jew and a Nazi or Hitler and going together for Halloween. It's not some jab at Jews, it's a situational joke.
I don't think the VA governor should resign over this, nor do I think anyone should be held to the fire for something like this, no matter what their political views are. I do agree that it puts Democrats in a difficult position, because they have created this culture that demonizes this very thing. The problem is, that they've got so caught up in demonizing all these things that they think only Republicans do / did, that they've totally disregarded the fact that many of these things are done or were done by everyone, no matter your political background. As some would say, they are eating themselves.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:59 am to SUB
Good luck with your costume.
ETA: in 1985 my kindergarten teacher went as “Mrs. T.” None of us seemed to notice that she didn’t apply dark makeup to her white skin.
Pretty clear what’s happening in this dialogue. A cultural norm has changed in our lifetime, and young men are trying to find the edge and get a rise out of people with the nuance between minstrel blackface and a person-specific costume/makeup.
CSB: If I’m going to a Halloween party, I probably don’t choose a costume that requires dark makeup to make me look like a black persons, even if specific, and that’s because I’d assume that it would make multiple people of all races in my social circle uncomfortable. I’d assume that most people feel the same way.
ETA: in 1985 my kindergarten teacher went as “Mrs. T.” None of us seemed to notice that she didn’t apply dark makeup to her white skin.
Pretty clear what’s happening in this dialogue. A cultural norm has changed in our lifetime, and young men are trying to find the edge and get a rise out of people with the nuance between minstrel blackface and a person-specific costume/makeup.
CSB: If I’m going to a Halloween party, I probably don’t choose a costume that requires dark makeup to make me look like a black persons, even if specific, and that’s because I’d assume that it would make multiple people of all races in my social circle uncomfortable. I’d assume that most people feel the same way.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 10:12 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:00 am to SUB
I would guess that in the early or mid 80s, he was dressing up like that to mock, not celebrate.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:00 am to SUB
I want the beast of stupid progressives created to consume as many progressives as possible
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:02 am to ScoopAndScore
quote:
the people in the yearbook photo weren't mocking a particular race, but obviously making a joke about a Klansman and a black person hanging out together.
That’s what it looks like. I suppose whether it was mocking depends on what you think about the way the guy was dressed.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:04 am to SUB
You're thinking too logically about this.
You can't wear it because I can gain social points by being offended by it.
You can't wear it because I can gain social points by being offended by it.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:06 am to SUB
I'm kind of over the whole "blackface" discussion, honestly. Except laughing at people who did it who try to act all high and mighty about racism.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:06 am to SUB
Your points are logical. But the left created this standard, they get to own it.
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