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re: Help Me and My Friends Plan Our Europe Trip

Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:08 am to
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:08 am to
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London/amsterdam/prague. Prague is great for the tail end, its dirt cheap and beer is everywhere.

I read this about Prague.
Also, apparently it was spared from major destruction during WWII (I may be wrong about that).

We're just trying to narrow it down at this point to avoid over-traveling as others have mentioned earlier.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:10 am to
Would anybody recommend a trip consistenting of GB countries?
(England, Scottish Highlands, Ireland, etc.)

My friend's dad is from a village in Ireland so I know it would mean a lot to him to include that in the trip.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 9:11 am
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:41 am to
Yes, I'd highly recommend a GB trip. Airfare to Dublin is often crazy cheap, so you could start there, hit some Irish high points & your friend's ancestral village, then fly to Edinburgh (1-hr flight as cheap as $40, usually around $100 or less). Do the highlands, drink some Scotch, then take the train to London for your grand finale.

--Ireland offers some interesting prehistory (Newgrange passage tomb outside Dublin), plus the whole fight for Irish independence, and amazing scenery. It's a small country & very tourist friendly. You'd need to pick a few highlights rather than try to cover the whole country in 4-5 days, but you could certainly see/experience lots. I was there last February, and despite the cold/damp/early dusk, it was green, lovely, and filled with friendly people.
--Scotland is awesome....hill walking, old Edinburgh & castle & yes, Scotch distillery tours.

London is a fantastic city....museums, theater (go see Book of Mormon w/your squad), lots of great food, and pubs. A long list of sights to see, nice/easy day trips, and a wide range of lodging at many price points.

Is this trip to enjoy yourselves, or to impress others by saying that you covered X cities and countries during your 2 weeks? Talk to your group & find consensus regarding:
--pace (leisurely vs quick; relaxed vs jam packed; or a mix of the two)
--budget (what's the maximum you want to spend on lodgings, average per night? how much for airfare/transportation?)
--must-dos for each person (soccer, ancestral village, pubs, distilleries/breweries, museums, particular kinds of food)

Pick the destination(s) and then the real planning begins. Don't act as though you will never take another trip in your life and try to do/see it all.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:46 am to
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hungryone


Really appreciate all of that.

quote:

Is this trip to enjoy yourselves, or to impress others by saying that you covered X cities and countries during your 2 weeks?

Also, I needed to hear this. Thanks again.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:52 am to
Glad to help. The idea of a trip, at times, gets ahead of the reality/experience. It's why so many people love package tours and things like Viking river cruises...they don't have to decide where to go, they don't have to plan, they just show up and enjoy themselves.

To me, that's tourism vs. traveling. I'd rather be more thoughtful in my choices, going exactly when & where I like, to suit my particular tastes/interests. As a bread baking geek, I have schlepped across cities to stand in line for a sourdough croissant in a neighborhood of commuters, or driven 1/2 hour out of my way to buy a loaf from a wood fired oven I heard about in a pub the evening before. If you're over-scheduled, you don't get to benefit from such serendipity.

One thing I will say: I don't drive in GB. The whole wrong side of the road messes w/my brain. I even have trouble sitting in the front passenger seat! So consider whether anyone in your party is a great driver and can handle car rental, or if you will need to plan around trains/public transit. (Aside: I like taking public transit, as it's a great time to people watch. But your group may want to hire a driver/van for certain activities.)
Posted by mizslu314
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:32 am to
Since you said you were PL fans, personally I would take a train from edinburgh to London, and stop in Manchester for a day or two on the way. Really cool to see the soccer history. Its also a great town to drink in, beats Liverpool and Newcastle any day.
Posted by Jackalope
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:10 am to
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One thing I will say: I don't drive in GB. The whole wrong side of the road messes w/my brain. I even have trouble sitting in the front passenger seat!


I'd listen to him on this one. I live near the UK, so I get there pretty often because I love cask ales and scotch way too much. It took me about 6 tries before I started to get the hang of it. But that first time...was wild. Road signs are not the same, road paint is not the same, it was frickin nuts.

Word to the wise, if you see these beers...get these beers. They should be just about every single pub you go to, less so at restaurants, and hardly ever at clubs. Cask beer is almost room temp, but the quality is superb. You don't really get to enjoy them anywhere else in the world, so drink up:



P.S. Cask beers are hardly ever hoppy. Even what they call ESB (Extra Special Bitter), or original style IPAs are way less hoppy than ours in America.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 11:14 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:21 am to
I'll definitely 2nd the cask ales, loved them.

I disagree on the driving, I drove this summer and I enjoyed it. I would absolutely not drive your first day jet lagged, that was my most dangerous day driving in my life. Dumb of me to do. Once I was rested though, it was great. No reason for this group to drive though.

A dublin, Edinborough, London, etc. trip is a fantastic trip. That's a decent bit of travel, but would be a great trip. That's a UK trip though, not nearly a Europe trip. Nothing wrong with that at all.

There's nothing wrong with doing a bunch of cities/ countries. What you don't want to do is multi day major travel. It would be like coming to the US for 2 weeks and going to NYC, Miami, and then San Francisco. That's dumb. But you could do a bunch of close towns like Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, and somewhere in Germany to get a vast taste of different countries with no trains over 3 hours and most under 2.

ETA: I would definitely agree with the idea of not trying to do too much. But, its also a lot of fun to experience 2 different countries. Its like going to Texas and Mexico, very close yet vastly different.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 11:24 am
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:46 am to
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A dublin, Edinborough, London, etc. trip is a fantastic trip. That's a decent bit of travel, but would be a great trip. That's a UK trip though, not nearly a Europe trip. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Point of clarification: the Irish Republic is NOT part of Great Britain...that would be Northern Ireland. The Republic of Ireland is NOT exiting the EU, unlike the Brits. So, yes, it is very much a part of modern Europe. Mainland Europe? No, but most definitely part of the EU & like other EU countries (except Britain), its currency is the Euro.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
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Member since Mar 2012
5520 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:42 am to
I here Aix en Provence in the South of France is pretty amazing. Might be worth checking out
Posted by weurf3
nola
Member since Jun 2004
1171 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:27 pm to
Did the buddy, post college trip in 06. While some time ago, I'll offer something up.

Amsterdam - stayed in a hostel in the red light district. The lobby was a bar. It was our intro to Europe and set the stage. Lots of offerings outside the obvious in Amsterdam.

Interlaken Switzerland - extreme activities with breath taking backdrop of scenery. Google canyoning in interlaken, skydiving etc. There's tons of extreme things to do. These are things I did that would now would be hard sells to the wife.

Innsbruck Austria - great place, expensive. Skied a glacier in the Alps so pretty cool to check it off.

Cinque Terre Italy - much more well known now than when I visited. Beautiful scenery, amazing hikes, cheap wine, fresh seafood and best topless beach I've visited. This was great end of trip place to chill.

We did 23 days total. Also visited Rome and Florence but I'll save you that since it seems Italy is low on the list.

We stayed in private room hostels 3 or 4 beds the entire time. Between this and the advent of airbnb now you should have it pretty good. We didn't schedule too far out. We had cities we wanted to visit on a short list. Made it to a city for a day then booked next stop. It was more organic. We met tons of likeminded travelers along the way, got ideas and rec's. I wouldn't trade the trip for anything looking back. Go for as long as time and money permit.

Cheers
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