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re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?

Posted on 1/3/13 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 6:06 pm to
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Kragthorpe, I feel bad for because of the health problems that he and his family have been through the last few years. But honestly that notwithstanding, he just is not a very good coach. He absolutely shite the bed then set it on fire at Louisville. Its no coincidence that Petrino won over 40 games in 4 years and took them to the BCS before Kragthorpe and Strong brought them back to double digit win seasons and the BCS after Kragthorpe. I don't really see our QBs progressing. Krag has never been a good recruiter and never will be.



He's not a head coach. He was a good coordinator and is a well respected QB coach. And he's responsible for both of the highly regarded QBs currently committed.

His head coaching failure has nothing to do with his ability to coach a QB. A first year starter progressed and improved during the year this year and Lee had his best year as a QB under him.
Posted by Curt
Bogalusa, La.
Member since Feb 2009
273 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 6:08 pm to
Ensminger,Stud coach TE. I can recruit better than Ensminger.
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
9816 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 6:11 pm to
Kragthorpe absolutely needs to stay.
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 6:33 pm to
Firing Ensminger accomplishes nothing and is going in the opposite direction. Ensminger is a former LSU tiger w strong recruiting ties. Maybe give him the offensive coordinator job like he had at A&M and get rid of the others that have no creativity at all. Ensminger for offensive coordinator. GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
18380 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

Nope, Ensminger.

+1
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

He was a good coordinator

meh
quote:

is a well respected QB coach

meh
quote:

he's responsible for both of the highly regarded QBs currently committed.

No he is not. Les himself has been the lead guy for both Rettig and Jennings.
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20982 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

Due to health reasons, he can't do the job he was hired to do. So, yeah.


I feel bad that Kragthorpe was diagnosed with Parkinson's but its not a death certificate. With treatment these days he could live 20-30 years without serious symptoms. I think he will come to realize this with time and either take over as OC or move on to a job with more responsibility
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
9816 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 6:58 pm to
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No he is not. Les himself has been the lead guy for both Rettig and Jennings.

False.
Posted by DaSaltyTiger
Alexandria/Pineville, LA area
Member since Dec 2004
4689 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 7:02 pm to
ensminger
Posted by deepdeltatiger
Myrtle Grove
Member since Aug 2007
917 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 7:24 pm to
Norv Turner-OC, QB, Rec.
Crag-QB, Rec, TE
Wilson-RB
Stud-OL, TE
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 8:22 pm to
id be ok with firing krags,stud and ensminger. bring in a qb coach/oc, new tight end coach and new oline coach
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72489 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 8:45 pm to
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Funny thing is you NEVER see him with a play card on the sideline.


wow

you do not pay attention well at all.

He has carried one before.

FACT
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 8:57 pm to
Send ensminger packing..

Why is he even on the LSU staff?
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 9:02 pm
Posted by hondo
Member since Oct 2006
1023 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 9:04 pm to
Guys,
As long as Les is here, LSU is where 5 star QBs come to die and great offensive coordinators get throttled.
Les controls the oc's ability to run a diversified play book
No change will occur before TCU game in coaching staff.
Book it
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 9:06 pm to
quote:


Guys,
As long as Les is here, LSU is where 5 star QBs come to die and great offensive coordinators get throttled.
Les controls the oc's ability to run a diversified play book
No change will occur before TCU game in coaching staff.
Book it


What does any of that have to do with having a good QB?
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10170 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

who do you fire?



OC
QB Coach
WR/TE Coach
OL Coach


We are just not getting our moneys worth out of these coaches.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 9:07 pm to
Get rid of miles. It's his philosophy after all. Get a new coach that has a lick of football sense and then you'll start seeing movements on the offensive side of the ball.
Posted by hondo
Member since Oct 2006
1023 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 9:08 pm to
What good QBs prospect would want to come here.?
Maybe he can learn to block
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 9:13 pm to
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What good QBs prospect would want to come here.? Maybe he can learn to block


Probably the 2 that are currently committed.

And what 5 star QBs have died here?
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