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No flopping rule. It's about time. Looking at you, Clippers.

Posted on 10/3/12 at 2:15 pm
Posted by MarcusQuinn
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 10/3/12 at 2:15 pm
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5874 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 2:45 pm to
Seems like more of a PR move to appease fans, these fines won't even deter guys making the league min.

Until the refs actually start handing out Ts for the flopping, it will continue.

Let's say Anthony Davis fouls out b/c of a BS flop foul and we wind up losing the game. Seeing CP3 get a 5k fine the next day for flopping isn't gonna take away that L. If you flop then consequences need to happen during the game.


This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34320 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Seems like more of a PR move to appease fans, these fines won't even deter guys making the league min.



I disagree. $5000 is $5000. If I have to pay a $50 fine, it doesn't break my bank, but I'm still not happy about it.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5874 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

it doesn't break my bank, but I'm still not happy about it.


Well that's my point. These small fines aren't enough of a deterrent when you're getting paid millions of dollars. Players get fined each time they get a technical foul yet they still do it, so how is this going to be any different?

Unless the consequences affect the flopper during the game, it will continue IMO.
This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34320 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 6:02 pm to
Just saw that the union is protesting this...
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 10/3/12 at 6:21 pm to
let them protest, I for one am glad to see the Flopping finally get cracked down on.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34320 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 7:59 am to
The General likes the new rule

So does Kobe, apparently.
Posted by wope
Member since Aug 2011
5682 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 9:49 am to
SHOCKINGLY, Blake Griffin doesn't like the rule. Imagine that!

quote:

"It's not going to win or lose games for anybody. It's a good way for the NBA to get more money," Los Angeles Clippers forward Blake Griffin said.

"But now you're telling me if it's Game 7 of the NBA Finals and a guy has a chance to make a play he's going to be like, 'Well, do I want this $10,000 or do I want a championship?' "


Funny how he thinks flopping is "making a play".
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34320 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Funny how he thinks flopping is "making a play".


I get the impression that flopping is coached in Flop City.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5874 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 11:10 am to
quote:

"It's not going to win or lose games for anybody. It's a good way for the NBA to get more money," Los Angeles Clippers forward Blake Griffin said.

"But now you're telling me if it's Game 7 of the NBA Finals and a guy has a chance to make a play he's going to be like, 'Well, do I want this $10,000 or do I want a championship?' "


Exactly why I don't think this will change things. Give the flopper a foul or a T and you will see a lot less flopping.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34320 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Exactly why I don't think this will change things. Give the flopper a foul or a T and you will see a lot less flopping.


Flopping is not something the game officials need to be worrying about. In a lot of the instances, the refs just plain can't tell in real time, thus the NBA reviewing the games.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5874 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Flopping is not something the game officials need to be worrying about. In a lot of the instances, the refs just plain can't tell in real time, thus the NBA reviewing the games.

Totally disagree. Flopping is a problem especially when players are getting fouls called on them as a result of it. I'm mainly talking about the obvious flops ala Reggie Evans on Vasquez last year. Evans should have been hit with a T or a personal foul in that incident.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34320 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Totally disagree. Flopping is a problem especially when players are getting fouls called on them as a result of it. I'm mainly talking about the obvious flops ala Reggie Evans on Vasquez last year. Evans should have been hit with a T or a personal foul in that incident.



I'm not saying that they shouldn't be allowed to call a T, but there should be reviews also. In fact, I think they should be allowed to call technical fouls on Flop City and Bron Bron. They should also be assessed a technical when they were found to flop on review. That way, the technicals would also add to their T total, which could push them closer to a suspension for too many.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5874 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

I'm not saying that they shouldn't be allowed to call a T, but there should be reviews also. In fact, I think they should be allowed to call technical fouls on Flop City and Bron Bron. They should also be assessed a technical when they were found to flop on review. That way, the technicals would also add to their T total, which could push them closer to a suspension for too many.

This I can agree with. I believe the Euroleague has a system in place where they give out Ts or personal fouls and a free throw if they see a player flopping. I think this would be more of a deterrent than a slap on the wrist fine.

Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 12:24 am to
Atleast they are trying to do something about it.
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