You’re assuming a win over Oklahoma.

And his current OC brings a somewhat more modern approach. What about the guy he hires next, or the one after that?

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But, again, you ignore the main point. They won't cost nearly as much as Jimbo and if they fail we can move on. If Jimbo fails we are stuck with him until like 2029 or 2030 or some insane shite.

If the 12 million figure is accurate, I assume it will be an 8 year deal max.

He will get four years minimum to make the CFP before he’d be considered a “failure”. That would leave half the deal left. Again, if the money is there to can Ed for almost 20 million two years removed from an NC (I actually didn’t think we would), the program will find a way to move on when the new TV deals are pouring much more money in by then.

And again, you’re missing my main point, that you don’t make the hire assuming the worst happens. That’s really never how hires have been made or will be in the future.

You don’t say we can get a better coach, but if he fails we’ll be stuck with him, so let’s hire a worse coach that we can get rid of easier if he sucks.

Sell that to the fan base. Because honestly that’s the position you’re taking when you strip it down to the basics.

Who is a better coach?

If you think Napier or Tucker or Aranda is “better”, then hire him. If Jimbo is the best, hire him. Otherwise, you’re yearning for the days of Joe Dean.

Personally I think Jimbo is a better and much more proven HC than Napier or Tucker without a second thought.

Aranda is a very good DC that appears to be growing into the HC position well, but given Jimbo’s much longer history of elite level recruiting and his focus on the offensive side of the ball, I take him even though it costs more.

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Posted by Goldrush25

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Posted on 11/6/21 at 12:57 pm to Tiger Voodoo

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And again, you’re missing my main point, that you don’t make the hire assuming the worst happens. That’s really never how hires have been made or will be in the future.

You don’t say we can get a better coach, but if he fails we’ll be stuck with him, so let’s hire a worse coach that we can get rid of easier if he sucks.

Yeah that's his angle. I don't think this idea of penny-pinching is compatible with the type of success we expect at LSU. Success takes some calculated risks, he wants little risk and high reward.

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Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 11/6/21 at 2:09 pm to Tiger Voodoo

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And his current OC brings a somewhat more modern approach. What about the guy he hires next, or the one after that?

What about Jimbo's OC that hasn't adapted to the modern game for 4-5 years?

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spidermanmeme

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He will get four years minimum to make the CFP

WTF why? With that sort of commitment it should be by 2023 minimum. FOUR years just to make the playoffs? To justify his deal we need a title in 4 years.

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Again, if the money is there to can Ed for almost 20 million two years removed from an NC (I actually didn’t think we would), the program will find a way to move on when the new TV deals are pouring much more money in by then.

LSU isn't paying a $50M+ buyout. Just isn't going to happen in our lifetimes. The optics alone are horrible.

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, that you don’t make the hire assuming the worst happens.

I'm not assuming the worst happens. I'm assuming he hits his ceiling of 2-3 losses somewhat regularly.

Worst case is his last year at FSU. I don't think that's likely (at least in the first 4-5 years)

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so let’s hire a worse coach that we can get rid of easier if he sucks.

This isn't 2015 anymore. Jimbo of 2021 isn't Jimbo of 2015 anymore. We don't know if guys like Napier or Aranda are "worse" because Jimbo hasn't exactly been elite at TAMU.

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Otherwise, you’re yearning for the days of Joe Dean.

Bull fricking shite. Not seeking out an irrational contract is not the same as "pinching pennies". We'd still have to pay a legit coach a market salary. Jimbo's demands are WAY above market (in both salary and duration)...unless he hates it so much at TAMU he'll take a 5 year $40M deal at LSU.