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re: Guns on movie sets: “Unreasonable and unrealistic” to expect actor to check load
Posted on 10/26/21 at 12:21 pm to AndyCBR
Posted on 10/26/21 at 12:21 pm to AndyCBR
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or if this is some type of accidental discharge scenario
This was a negligent discharge and not an accidental discharge. There is a difference between the two and this difference is important.
No one is claiming the revolver was fired as a result of being dropped or knocked into something--this could be accidental.
The hammer was intentionally cocked (if single action) and the trigger was intentionally pulled--this caused the bullet to be fired. There is nothing accidental about this tragic event.
Negligence is in abundance:
- Someone negligently brought a live round onto the set.
- The armorer negligently did not verify the firearm was unloaded/"cold" at the time it was delivered to Alec Baldwin.
- Alec Baldwin negligently aimed the firearm at a person (I've heard this was a POV shot, thus aimed at the camera).
- Alec Baldwin negligently did not verify the firearm was "cold." Baldwin may have relied on the person who gave him the firearm but this was Baldwin's decision and does not absolve him of his responsibility.
- The Director of Cinematography negligently permitted the firearm to be pointed at her.
- The Director negligently allowed the firearm to be pointed at a person instead of ensuring all people (including himself who was wounded) were out of the line of fire (even if only by a foot or so).
Ultimately, Alec Baldwin intentionally pulled the trigger and a negligent discharge occurred. The events leading up to the Director of Cinematography being killed were not accidents.
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Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:01 pm to FlyingPelican
The last guy to handle the pistol during the break for lunch" target practice", left a bullet or bullets in the weapon. Also negligent.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:07 pm to FlyingPelican
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This was a negligent discharge and not an accidental discharge.
Eh, this is semantics and in the gun biz it's all an AD (accidental discharge). Save that shite for the lawyers.
If an armorer/gun wrangler gives an actor a gun and says it's cold then that's it. Now, if the AD did that without the armorer making that determination, it's a frick up.
That's the whole purpose of an armorer.
This was a huge frick up and again I think Alec Baldwin is a prick. But if the armorer says it's cold, it's done. You don't want people who don't even know how to handle guns manipulating them and fricking with them trying to verify whether they are clear or not., they don;t have the expertise in the first place. On the set, it's not their job.
If the expert hired by the production, with AB's oversight, is proven to be incompetent, and there was evidence of that prior to this incident, then that is a whole separate set of negligent acts by the production staff. Based on some of the reporting of several people on the set prior to this incident it appears there was definitely a problem with armorer's and procedures.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 8:08 pm
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