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re: Why Kiffin over Napier??

Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:27 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:27 am to
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A tough sell given Kiffin is a more proven product


is he? based on what?

at USC- down up and down
at FAU- down up and down
at OM so far-down up and ?????

see trend?

being OC for saban means what? and Napier was OC for dabo and coached for saban....in the end that means shite


as offensive coordinator KIFFIN >>>>>>>>>Greater than pretty much everyone not named art briles

as HC and actual results..... Napiers record and resume>> Kiffens.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61439 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:45 am to
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is he? based on what?



More head coaching experience, more national recruiting experience, more playcalling experience, more success at a higher level.


Kiffin has seen everything. Napier has barely even been a HC.

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at USC- down up and down
at FAU- down up and down
at OM so far-down up and ?????



A 5-5 season during covid isn't necessarily "down" for Ole Miss, especially when 3 of their opponents are LSU, Bama, and Texas A&M.


Kiffin's stop at USC had all the potential and he showed flashes but his early career immaturity killed it and the USC athletic department was a mess. That time while to you may be a blemish, based on what I see now I think it's been an asset as an invaluable learning experience. A lot of great coaches have had failed stops before breaking out elsewhere after learning from their mistakes (Saban, Belichick).

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being OC for saban means what? and Napier was OC for dabo and coached for saban....in the end that means shite



Isn't Napier's connection to Saban one of his most hailed attributes? That's all we've heard, "he's just like Saban, he's process-oriented like Saban, he talks like Saban".

Well tell me, why was Napier only ever the WR coach while Kiffin was the offensive coordinator? Explain to me how being position coach under Saban makes him more qualified than any OC or DC that's coached under Saban.


And Napier was fired as OC under Dabo.


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as HC and actual results..... Napiers record and resume>> Kiffens.



No, just no. 4 years at ULL isn't shite. Kiffins 3 years at FAU are highly comparable to Napiers, if not better.


Here is FAU from 2010 through the Kiffin tenure:


2010-(4-8)
2011-(1-11)
2012-(3-9)
2013-(6-6)
2014-(3-9)
2015-(3-9)
2016-(3-9)
2017-(11-3)-Kiffin as HC
2018-(5-7)-Kiffin as HC
2019-(10-3)
-Kiffin as HC

Here is ULL through the first 3 years of Napier:

2011-(9-4)
2012-(9-4)
2013-(9-4)
2014-(7-4)
2015-(4-8)
2016-(6-7)
2017-(5-7)
2018-(7-7)-Napier as HC
2019-(11-3)-Napier as HC
2020-(9-1)
-Napier as HC



As you can see ULL was very much a bowl team with winning records prior to Napier while FAU had very few winning records and none from 2010-2016 prior to Kiffin.


And now in 2021 both are 6-1. Kiffin is 6-1 at an SEC school and Napier is 6-1 in the sun belt.







This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 10:52 am
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