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re: Out of 75 million kids, only 499 have died from Covid so far

Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:17 am to
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:17 am to
Can someone explain the difference between dying from Covid & dying with Covid? It seems to be a popular distinction on this thread, but I don't get it.

Are you claiming that there have been more deaths "from" covid?
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2102 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:22 am to
Car accident death autopsy shows kid had covid= died with covid

Covid caused kid to be hospitalized and die= died from covid

The board has a major issue with the CDC lumping all deaths into the first situation like they do. Its disingenuous at best and sinister at worst.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:44 am to
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Can someone explain the difference between dying from Covid & dying with Covid? It seems to be a popular distinction on this thread, but I don't get it.


A couple of key points.

1) If someone has Covid and diabetes, they are much more likely to have severe negative outcomes. So while around 1/3 of Americans have pre-existing conditions, 90% of Covid deaths are in the group of people who have pre-existing conditions. If you drill down to several key pre-existing conditions (hypertension, obesity, diabetes), a huge portion of Covid deaths occur in those subsets. These are still, I believe, correctly classified as Covid deaths.

2) The more indefensible practice is death certificate harvesting. This is when health agencies (at various levels, Federal, state, county) find a death and then reclassify that death as a Covid death based upon a Covid diagnosis within X days of their death or based upon a suspected case of Covid. These “harvestings” happen 3, 6 or even more months after the death.

That’s also why it’s hard to make sense of some of the daily death numbers as they include deaths that actually occurred weeks and months ago.
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