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re: USA has lost its last two major wars
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:02 pm to Kafka
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:02 pm to Kafka
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The Tet Offensive was a military failure for the North Vietnamese. The NV Command regarded it as such... Until Walter Cronkite and the US media started claiming it was a disaster for the US. They hammered this home so much it became the "Quagmire" narrative.
Baby Boomers get really angry when I bring up this fact. Even conservative ones. I guess it is part of their coming of age narrative and they don't want to question it.
That said, we never should have gone into Vietnam nor forced young men to fight there. But yes, militarily we were winning it. And Kronkite was either an ignorant twit or an outright liar (another true statement that really angers Boomers of any ideology)
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:35 pm to tigahbruh
quote:
Baby Boomers get really angry when I bring up this fact. Even conservative ones. I guess it is part of their coming of age narrative and they don't want to question it.
That said, we never should have gone into Vietnam nor forced young men to fight there. But yes, militarily we were winning it. And Kronkite was either an ignorant twit or an outright liar (another true statement that really angers Boomers of any ideology)
The casualties in Vietnam were 50x higher than the war on terror, there were points when we were losing 10,000 a year KIA.
The argument was that Vietnam simply was not worth that many men lost.
It was impossible for us to "win" there because we were never there to do anything but fight the north to a stalemate and allow the South to take over(same as post 2001 Afghanistan). When a stalemate is producing the "One Week in Vietnam" Life magazine cover in year 5 of the war it's time to start wondering if it's worth it.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:36 pm to tigahbruh
quote:\\What the frick are you talking about?
Baby Boomers get really angry when I bring up this fact. Even conservative ones. I guess it is part of their coming of age narrative and they don't want to question it.
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