Is he though? I get why people feel that way, but

- Lakers picks/swaps still have all but the least valuable 2022 pick
-#4 Lakers pick: Jury is still out and NAW/Jaxson should give us the verdict by the end of the season.
- Bucks picks, blew the 2021 pick on Steven Adams, still have the rest.
- Still have Ingram/Hart
- Lonzo is a loss of value, but most of us wanted to trade him during the AD trade precisely because we thought his value was higher then (allegedly a top 10 1st from Phoenix) than it would be now.

So of all of the assets Lonzo was wasted, a few 1sts in the 20s were wasted, and the jury is out on #4. Everything else is more or less intact and I'd argue that Ingram was better than expected as many of us valued the bundle of picks more than the players at first.

I'm not defending Griff here, he has for sure been wasteful and dumb with several moves. I'm just saying when you tally it all up, the losses aren't as bad as they feel.

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Posted by TeddyPadillac

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Posted on 8/27/21 at 2:38 pm to TigerinATL

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I'm not defending Griff here, he has for sure been wasteful and dumb with several moves. I'm just saying when you tally it all up, the losses aren't as bad as they feel.

they really aren't, but as a small market team, you can't afford to be wasteful like he's been. That's why it's irritating. The Graham first was just unnecessary. The Grizz actually didn't have to give up assets to trade Bledsoe, like we did, but got back three young players, two of which are actually decent. The Grizz are laughing at how stupid Griff is.
I'm very happy with Trey Murphy. I'm happy with Graham and Val, but what it cost us to get those two and get rid of Adams/Bledsoe, on top of getting next to nothing in return for Lonzo just makes us (i mean Griff) look really stupid this offseason.

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Posted by NOSHAU

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Posted on 8/27/21 at 2:40 pm to TigerinATL

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I'm not defending Griff here, he has for sure been wasteful and dumb with several moves. I'm just saying when you tally it all up, the losses aren't as bad as they feel.

Ball and 3 1sts out with only Graham to show for it. #4 pick, as you said, jury is still out on. That is a lot of assets for very little to show for it thus far. If someone told you that we would trade Ball and 4 1sts, one being #4 overall, wouldn't you think you would have more to show for it than Graham, NAW and Hayes? Edit: I guess we should add JV to the assets we received in return.

This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 2:42 pm

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Posted by Townedrunkard

Member since Jan 2019

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Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:37 pm to TigerinATL

I mean if you think giving up a total of three first round picks for Steven Adams and Devontae Graham isn’t wasting assets then sure. Not to mention the firsts he could have gained by bypassing other trades.

He could have picked up two firsts by taking on Horford instead of Adams.

Then maybe go for SGA with those 5 first round picks we just blew or didn’t have b/c of trades he didn’t make. I think the thunder would have been very interested in a package with 5-6 frp with a few other pieces. And we’d still have exactly what we have right now.

Been saying all these stupid losses Griff keeps taking adds up.

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