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Is this a Leusistic or piebald deer?
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:26 am
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:26 am
Buddy of mine asked me to post these up to see what the OB has to say. He saw a complete white one last year but it seems it may have now turned mostly brown? He also seen another complete white one this year. The eyes look dark (black or blue) so that would make me think leusistic (not pink like albino) since all white but I don’t think it would change color? Do piebald deer start out white then get some brown?
Is it possible the brown one is not the white one turned brown, but a parent of the full white ones that has the mostly recessive white gene?
Last years white that he thinks is now mostly brown
New white one from this year
Is it possible the brown one is not the white one turned brown, but a parent of the full white ones that has the mostly recessive white gene?
Last years white that he thinks is now mostly brown
New white one from this year
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 9:34 am
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:32 am to NOLAGT
My dear.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:34 am to TigernMS12
voice to text got me Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:37 am to NOLAGT
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:27 am to NOLAGT
My man!
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:50 am to 24nights
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:17 pm to NOLAGT
Albino
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:22 pm to oleyeller
Doesn’t have pink eyes
Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:37 pm to NOLAGT
I hope someone chimes in on this, piebald deer are 1/10,000 I’m told.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:50 pm to NOLAGT
As far as the white one goes, that looks like (and from the description, sounds like) a leusistic deer.
For the other questions regarding the one that was white last year--I doubt it changed to a completely brown deer. The white color is caused by a mutation. Those genes don't just mutate back to normal.
For the other questions regarding the one that was white last year--I doubt it changed to a completely brown deer. The white color is caused by a mutation. Those genes don't just mutate back to normal.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:59 pm to Cowboyfan89
I have to agree with you on that but a couple folks have said this is his summer coat... so I have no clue, anxious to find out though.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:15 pm to 24nights
First you make a roux, then you make a rug
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:41 pm to 24nights
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I have to agree with you on that but a couple folks have said this is his summer coat
I suppose this is possible, although I would think the deer would have had some brown on it before, making it a piebald and not leucistic. The pictures of that deer from 2020 appear to be a purely leucistic deer, meaning it produces no melanin. It's body would not all of a sudden produce melanin. Piebald deer produce some melanin, which is what causes at least some normal colored hairs in the body.
If I had to guess, the 2020 deer and the deer with the eye ring are two different individuals.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:12 am to NOLAGT
Any updates?
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:51 am to 24nights
Nothing yet. Waiting for someone to get back to me that sent it off to some professors at UL
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:06 am to NOLAGT
Just a little shameless bump brochetta.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:34 pm to NOLAGT
If it's happening with regularity, it's most likely to be a recessive gene and not a genetic disorder. I believe leusistic is the correct answer.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:25 pm to 24nights
I know just sharing with the rest of the class.
I feel confident saying the solid white ones are leusistic. I dont think it changed to that brown one tho. That one might have some of the leusistic gene in it, it is a recessive gene until there are 2. If that one breeds with a regular deer it may have a chance of having some pure white, mixed and regular offspring. And the mixed might have a single recessive gene. Not 100% on it all but that’s my guess I think it’s 3 different deer.
just sharing with the rest of the class. I feel confident saying the solid white ones are leusistic. I dont think it changed to that brown one tho. That one might have some of the leusistic gene in it, it is a recessive gene until there are 2. If that one breeds with a regular deer it may have a chance of having some pure white, mixed and regular offspring. And the mixed might have a single recessive gene. Not 100% on it all but that’s my guess I think it’s 3 different deer.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:31 pm to NOLAGT
That brown one is odd if he's piebald, because I've never seen one that only has white rings around the eyes. Would definitely be a unique piebald...or he's just a stressed out buck...lol!
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:40 pm to Cowboyfan89
What I’m wondering is if there is just one leusistic gene will it partly show some traits like the white around the eyes. It would make sense if in that area the deer are staying around and breeding year after year throwing some full white and some partly.
Or some a-hole is trying to choot him and stressing him out
Or some a-hole is trying to choot him and stressing him out
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