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re: U.S. launches airstrikes against Iran-backed militias
Posted on 6/27/21 at 10:26 pm to SCLibertarian
Posted on 6/27/21 at 10:26 pm to SCLibertarian
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You consistently trash non-interventionists in almost every foreign policy thread.
I wouldn’t argue with you for one second about our foreign policy and involvement being absolute shite. I wouldn’t even argue with you that we have no business being involved, militarily or otherwise, in about 85% of the crap we are involved in. But I will absolutely make the case that if you want it to be an all or none proposition, it must be all, because there’s a lot of people around the world that want to kill us, for whatever reason. We must fight and kill them there, not on our own soil, with our citizens in harms way.
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And all of the shite Trump voters now know and believe about our government was plainly told to them 15 years ago by one man, and his name was Ron Paul.
Yeah, Trump should have just issued a letter of marque against Solemani, and let him keep killing our troops and others.
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The fact remains, your platitudes about the lesser of two evils doesn't hold water when the vast majority of posters on this board likely supported McCain, Romney or Giuliani in the primaries when they did have a choice.
Ahhh, the libertarian persecution complex. I can look up the dates when Paul actually dropped out of the presidential races, but I can all but guarantee you that I have never seen a ballot with Ron Paul’s name on it, and I have voted in every primary and election since 1984. I don’t know that I would have, I given the opportunity, because I don’t agree with open borders, isolationism, and abusing children with drug addled parents, but I’m pretty certain I’ve never had the opportunity.
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 10:34 pm to troyt37
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But I will absolutely make the case that if you want it to be an all or none proposition, it must be all, because there’s a lot of people around the world that want to kill us, for whatever reason. We must fight and kill them there, not on our own soil, with our citizens in harms way.
This hasn't worked at all. Arguably the insistence that 'people want to kill us' as a carte blanche justification to invade and interfere in the balance of power in the region has made us less secure, and has deteriorated the security of the entire region.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:04 am to troyt37
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We must fight and kill them there, not on our own soil, with our citizens in harms way.
Who the hell elected the United States as Powered Armored Global-Cop to pick winners or losers in these ancient sectarian conflicts? Certainly not me.
We dare invade medieval theocracies with our “transgenderized” armies to “liberate” these supposedly backwards civilizations so their sons and daughters can become “enlightened” and chemically castrate and sexually mutilate themselves? Which is the truly barbaric culture here?
Is it any wonder they consider the United States the “Great Satan?” They certainly will get little argument from me on that point.
Now, I want to make clear that I hold no illusions about either ISIS or their Iranian counterparts, Hezbelloh. These are all bad actors in a bad play and
there are no white hats in this sordid little drama.
Yet the height of this badly written farce was reached when the CIA set out to organize and arm ISIS to ethnically cleanse Iraq of Shiites; wildly successful in that task the molt of ISIS then moved to Syria — still under CIA sponsorship — to fight rebel forces armed by the Pentagon. It led to such absurd headlines as this:
The wholly corrupted national security apparatus of United States is as evil a villain as any other player in this play. At this late stage, I fail to understand how anyone who claims to support the principles of limited government can continue to make excuses for this era of permanent occupation and perpetual war.
Indeed, the primary enemy to continued Liberty in this nation comes not from Tehran, Moscow or Beijing. No, the biggest threat to the future of Liberty in this nation arises comes from the permanent class of embedded oligarchs who control all the true levers of power in Washington D.C.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 4:39 pm
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