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re: LA legislature denies Independent nurse practice
Posted on 6/23/21 at 12:49 pm to AMS
Posted on 6/23/21 at 12:49 pm to AMS
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an intern year physician 1 year out of medical school is much more trained than a midlevel will ever be,
Trained, or classically educated?
I would think an NP with 20 years exp has "seen" more things in the field... but the physician 1 year out of medical school has probably learned more things from books/lectures/labs.
Or is there really no distinction?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 1:04 pm to LSUFanHouston
Source: Beckers Hospital Review
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Full practice authority
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Reduced practice authority
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Restricted practice authority
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 5:50 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Trained, or classically educated?
I would think an NP with 20 years exp has "seen" more things in the field... but the physician 1 year out of medical school has probably learned more things from books/lectures/labs.
both. they may have "seen" more things but that's not equal to training or education. I don't think physician supervised midlevel field experience is even equivalent to half the same hours of residency training. Physicians see more patients with more complex problems while training and educating younger crops of physicians. If I have a complex medical problem sign me up for the physician 1 year into residency over the 20 year NP 10/10 times. If I have a simple problem they are probably equivalent choices.
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Or is there really no distinction?
putting aside foundational education which obviously physicians get mountains more of, lets discuss clinical training hours.
NP training = 500-1500 hours based on the program/state reqs. lets max it out and say 1,500 hours.
PA training = 2,000 hours.
by the end of medical school an MD/DO has 6,000 hours. before residency even starts that is 3-4x more training than the most trained independent midlevels.
We require physicians an additional 10,000ish hours for 3-4 year residency training before being independent. Independent midlevel laws make less sense than letting 4th year medical students quit school and start practicing medicine.
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