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re: Ted Williams Goat hitter
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:34 am to dukke v
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:34 am to dukke v
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Could Rogers Hornsby hit in this era??????
Want to put Ty Cobb in there too? Who knows, he played over 100 years ago.
I know Ty Cobb would be suspended the first time he flashed those metal cleats, or else some of these players today would have beat him to death. Baseball doesn't play that game anymore and therein lies the problem of comparisons.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:42 am to bamameister
Omg you are so stupid…..
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:45 am to dukke v
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Omg you are so stupid…..
I notice you go to this reply quite a lot. Why not try some facts as a change of pace, if you can possible find them?
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:49 am to dukke v
Hornsby hit like a lot of those Charlie Lau disciples, but fifty years before.
Way back in the batter's box, striding into the pitch.
Way back in the batter's box, striding into the pitch.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:52 am to bamameister
1921. Babe Ruth.
59 home runs
177 runs scored
171 RBI’S
Hit . 378
Slugging % .846
Now when ANY other player has a season like that then we can talk…. I don’t care who he batted against pitcher wise. Every player in the league was going against the same pitching and none came close to doing what Ruth did.
59 home runs
177 runs scored
171 RBI’S
Hit . 378
Slugging % .846
Now when ANY other player has a season like that then we can talk…. I don’t care who he batted against pitcher wise. Every player in the league was going against the same pitching and none came close to doing what Ruth did.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 12:09 pm to dukke v
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1921. Babe Ruth.
Have you got any pictures of Bobby Jones hitting golf balls with a wooden stick and wearing his shirt and tie? Lots of folks still have him #1.
Genetics in sports players today is like comparing a Brahma bull with a white-tail deer.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 12:12 pm to bamameister
You told me you wanted facts so I just gave them to you….You have any facts to share proving Ted Williams is not the greatest hitter of all time????? Fricking inbred hump…..
Posted on 6/20/21 at 12:20 pm to dukke v
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You told me you wanted facts so I just gave them to you….You have any facts to share proving Ted Williams is not the greatest hitter of all time?????
Perhaps you spend so much time worrying about what other people think that your reading comprehension isn't up to speed.
I just told you, lots of great, great players could hit with power. That comparing eras in sports is like explaining quantum mechanics.
I also wholeheartedly believe that athletes are bigger, faster, smarter through technology than ever before. That said, I still don't know if Frank Robinson, or Mickey Mantle, or Barry Bonds, or anyone else is the definitive number 1 of all time.
And neither do you.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 12:36 pm to bamameister
Oh let’s wait….. Ted Williams hit .401 for a season but hey that was 80 years ago…. Nobody has done it since…… if players are so much better now, why can’t anyone hit that????
Posted on 6/20/21 at 12:44 pm to dukke v
[quote]Oh let’s wait….. Ted Williams hit .401 for a season but hey that was 80 years ago…. Nobody has done it since…… if players are so much better now, why can’t anyone hit that????
Wilt Chamberlain rewrote the record books in 1962, averaging over 50 points and 25 rebounds per game and establishing himself as one of the most dominant players to ever grace the court. In terms of raw statistics, Wilt's '62 campaign is easily the greatest season ever.
Yet Wilt Chamberlain has been completely dismissed not only as GOAT, but even best center of all time. When you bring up his 100 points in a game it is quickly dismissed as the inferior competition of the time.
You are going back in time to try to make the same point, using the same yardstick. Good luck with that.
Wilt Chamberlain rewrote the record books in 1962, averaging over 50 points and 25 rebounds per game and establishing himself as one of the most dominant players to ever grace the court. In terms of raw statistics, Wilt's '62 campaign is easily the greatest season ever.
Yet Wilt Chamberlain has been completely dismissed not only as GOAT, but even best center of all time. When you bring up his 100 points in a game it is quickly dismissed as the inferior competition of the time.
You are going back in time to try to make the same point, using the same yardstick. Good luck with that.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 12:58 pm to ReauxlTide222
Reaulx Tide just like a typical Bama sidewalk fan your clueless.
Your saying what would Ted Williams do if he faced a 101 mph fastball and a 89 mmph slider????????
Mmm you dont have to what if you can look it up genius....... You do know that Bob Feller was clocked at ov 104 MPH dont you????? Look it up.
Oh my bad you said what if he faced a 101 MPH fastball not a 104 MPH fastball.
Your saying what would Ted Williams do if he faced a 101 mph fastball and a 89 mmph slider????????
Mmm you dont have to what if you can look it up genius....... You do know that Bob Feller was clocked at ov 104 MPH dont you????? Look it up.
Oh my bad you said what if he faced a 101 MPH fastball not a 104 MPH fastball.
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 6/20/21 at 1:04 pm to bamameister
Wilt wasn’t playing anyone his equal. He had no problem dominating. Ted Williams was going against every pitcher that everyone else faced and dominated……..
Posted on 6/20/21 at 1:07 pm to dukke v
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Wilt wasn’t playing anyone his equal. He had no problem dominating. Ted Williams was going against every pitcher that everyone else faced and dominated……..
Want your cake and eat it too I see. Wilt Chamberlain is no different than Ted Williams or Babe Ruth. Well, not true, he is a little darker.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 1:09 pm to bamameister
Your post is on a slippery slope…
Posted on 6/20/21 at 1:16 pm to dukke v
Look, I don't think anyone can definitively say who the greatest hitter of all time was (I believe it's Williams, but completely understand arguments made for Bonds, Ruth, etc.), but however this argument shakes out, let's rememberthat Williams .400 season was a .406 season, that he was below .400 to start the last day of the season, got to .400 during the first game of a double header and skip wanted to pull him, he refused, went 6-8 on the day, and finished at .406.
There are not many athletes that would have jeopardized the accomplishment for those last 5 or however many ABs. He did, and he made the most of them. Ted Williams was a bastard, and a wonderful hitter.
There are not many athletes that would have jeopardized the accomplishment for those last 5 or however many ABs. He did, and he made the most of them. Ted Williams was a bastard, and a wonderful hitter.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 1:45 pm to dukke v
Hold on, peej. Wilt played against multiple HoF centers, and against the "greatest defensive player of all time", Bill Russell, averaged 28 points and 28 rebounds a game.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 1:52 pm to rsbd
All the great hitters looked up to him...well except probably Bonds who couldn't see out of his own arse.
But players like Gwynn wanted to talk hitting with him.
Williams wrote the best book on hitting.
The movie The Natural stole his line.
"When I walk down the street I want people to say, there goes the greatest hitter who ever lived."
But players like Gwynn wanted to talk hitting with him.
Williams wrote the best book on hitting.
The movie The Natural stole his line.
"When I walk down the street I want people to say, there goes the greatest hitter who ever lived."
Posted on 6/20/21 at 1:53 pm to Flair Chops
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He did, and he made the most of them. Ted Williams was a bastard, and a wonderful hitter.
MJ was also a total a-hole..... The TRUE GOAT!!!!!!!
Posted on 6/20/21 at 1:59 pm to dukke v
Ted raised a shite-ton of money for the Jimmy Fund, and often aided former players who were down on their luck.
He was quite the complicated personality, as he could also be a prick.
He was quite the complicated personality, as he could also be a prick.
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