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West Memphis three
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:27 am
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:27 am
Fascinating story. Just got into it. I am going to watch documentaries on it.
Did not know Jessie Miskelly admitted three times that he, Echols and Baldwin were involved in the murders. Any thoughts
Did not know Jessie Miskelly admitted three times that he, Echols and Baldwin were involved in the murders. Any thoughts
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Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:29 am to JimNat
Thoughts- the Netflix doc is a one-sided, very likely incorrect, recalling of the "facts".
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:31 am to WorkinDawg
Which one would give both sides to story? Cannot believe they could not find the killer of the three boys.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:33 am to JimNat
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Cannot believe they could not find the killer of the three boys.
They found the killer of the 3 boys. Not sure which one tells it honestly.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:35 am to JimNat
They’re the white Central Park Five. They’re as guilty as hell.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:36 am to WorkinDawg
Do you believe Echols and the other two were involved? What about the guy they found in bathroom at restaurant covered in blood?
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:46 am to JimNat
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Did not know Jessie Miskelly admitted three times that he, Echols and Baldwin were involved in the murders. Any thoughts
Well, Miskelly has the IQ of someone with significant mental disability. Its hard to say that they are guilty based on an admission by him.
It didn't seem like there was enough evidence to convict those boys.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 10:59 am
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:46 am to JimNat
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Jessie Miskelly admitted three times that he, Echols and Baldwin were involved in the murders. Any thoughts
DNA from the crime scene matched the DNA of the Branch boy's step-father, if I remember correctly.
I believe the three are innocent. JMHO
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 10:53 am
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:48 am to JimNat
I personally don’t believe they did it. I thought it was a witch-hunt and they were blamed, and they took advantage of them.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:48 am to Funky Tide 8
I hear you. He was not very smart. I just don’t understand why he would confess three times.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:55 am to JimNat
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I hear you. He was not very smart. I just don’t understand why he would confess three times.
Look up false confessions. There have been many studies on why some people falsely confess to crimes. It's a thing.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:01 am to JimNat
One of the most (if not THE most) egregious example of judicial misconduct of all time. David Burnett's behavior was beyond embarrassing and borderline criminal.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:02 am to JimNat
I am well versed in the story. I believe they did it as there is significantly strong evidence against them. There is a site called callahan that has a bunch of the original documents so you can fight through the b.s. of the propaganda. There also is a local reporter from the area named Gary Meece that does a podcast called "The Case Against" that lays out the evidence - the podcast is poor quality but the content is good.
My quick summary:
1. Misskelley confessed five times - even when is attorney advised him not to. His statement about the Evan Williams bottle location underneath the bridge was confirmed, which clearly points to the veracity of the claim.
- He was just the follower and the only one truly remorseful
- He did not have a retarded IQ. Yes, it is low but he was and continues to be a functioning member of society.
- There is zero evidence his confession was false or coerced despite the claims; his father took him to the station, it occurred shortly after he came to the station (it was not after 12 hours)
2. Echols confessed to the crime multiple times to third people, which led to his arrest. He was never target because he listened to Metallica or wore black but because he had a history of mental illness, violent behavior, and said he did it
3. A knife consist with the boys' wounds was found behind Baldwin's home
4. Echols' family members identified him and Baldwin near the crime scene at the time after the murders.
5. None of the convicted have an alibi.
Certainly does not mean they did it, but there has never been any evidence pointing to anyone else.
In terms of DNA:
1. Blood consistent with one of the boys was found on a necklace worn by Echols and Baldwin.
2. Wax was found at the scene consistent with purple candles found at Echols' house (or girlfriend's house)
Happy to discuss. I am a fan of true crime. I do tend to think most of the publicized cases are rightfully conviceted.
My quick summary:
1. Misskelley confessed five times - even when is attorney advised him not to. His statement about the Evan Williams bottle location underneath the bridge was confirmed, which clearly points to the veracity of the claim.
- He was just the follower and the only one truly remorseful
- He did not have a retarded IQ. Yes, it is low but he was and continues to be a functioning member of society.
- There is zero evidence his confession was false or coerced despite the claims; his father took him to the station, it occurred shortly after he came to the station (it was not after 12 hours)
2. Echols confessed to the crime multiple times to third people, which led to his arrest. He was never target because he listened to Metallica or wore black but because he had a history of mental illness, violent behavior, and said he did it
3. A knife consist with the boys' wounds was found behind Baldwin's home
4. Echols' family members identified him and Baldwin near the crime scene at the time after the murders.
5. None of the convicted have an alibi.
Certainly does not mean they did it, but there has never been any evidence pointing to anyone else.
In terms of DNA:
1. Blood consistent with one of the boys was found on a necklace worn by Echols and Baldwin.
2. Wax was found at the scene consistent with purple candles found at Echols' house (or girlfriend's house)
Happy to discuss. I am a fan of true crime. I do tend to think most of the publicized cases are rightfully conviceted.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 11:04 am
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:09 am to JimNat
Objectively there was enough doubt from the beginning that a prosecutor should never have taken the case to a grand jury much less a trial. Having someone like Miskelly and his diminished mental capacity offering up a confession is problematic.
Really the West Memphis cops operated sloppily and lazy . They wanted to hang this murder on someone with the least amount of effort. Echols and Baldwin were 2 teenage misfits that did not do themselves any favors.
Really the West Memphis cops operated sloppily and lazy . They wanted to hang this murder on someone with the least amount of effort. Echols and Baldwin were 2 teenage misfits that did not do themselves any favors.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:10 am to Baylor Kyle
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Certainly does not mean they did it, but there has never been any evidence pointing to anyone else.
you sure?
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:17 am to Funky Tide 8
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you sure?
Yes. Positive.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:18 am to Baylor Kyle
I was a young prosecutor in NOLA at the time and I had numerous questions about the case myself just from a curiosity standpoint. I was always concerned that the police did not look at other more plausible possible suspects. They honed in on Echols especially.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:27 am to KiwiHead
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I was a young prosecutor in NOLA at the time and I had numerous questions about the case myself just from a curiosity standpoint. I was always concerned that the police did not look at other more plausible possible suspects. They honed in on Echols especially.
Two people were questioned (not sure if they were arrested) in connection with the killings before Echols became a suspect. He did not emerge until he told people he did it and Misskelley implicated him.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:28 am to JimNat
so a kid with an IQ of a turnip admitted three times over the course of a fourteen hour interrogation without an attourney that they were involved in the murders. Computes.
Given another hour, we'd have had our real JFK killer.
Given another hour, we'd have had our real JFK killer.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:35 am to OccamsStubble
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so a kid with an IQ of a turnip admitted three times over the course of a fourteen hour interrogation without an attourney that they were involved in the murders. Computes.
Given another hour, we'd have had our real JFK killer.
Too bad none of that happened in this case.
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