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re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Posted on 6/15/21 at 5:57 pm to conservativewifeymom
Posted on 6/15/21 at 5:57 pm to conservativewifeymom
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Aren't Catholics prohibited from taking communion unless they have gone to confession first?!?!
Like the rest of this thread, no nuance and a lot of misinformation.
While the pope is wrong, the hesitancy is ok. We are in a completely different world than even 30 years ago when being Christian and Catholic were the norm and understood. Where sin was actually hidden so making those distinctions and a call like this was unnecessary.
Now, these things are public and championed, and a step to withhold the Eucharist, mind you millions of Catholic in sin take it every weekend, is actually politicizing it.
What you'd be asking Catholic priests to do is the same as what we DON'T want the government doing, namely actually "tracking the sin and support of it." You'd have to keep a list of "offending politicians," and deny them all the Eucharist, you can't just choose the president.
It's dangerous territory for something like that. Pope Francis makes a lot of mistakes, and many on purpose, or with a short sighted viewpoint, but while he might be wrong, he also isn't wrong to question what a step like this means.
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 6:32 pm to Freauxzen
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What you'd be asking Catholic priests to do is the same as what we DON'T want the government doing, namely actually "tracking the sin and support of it." You'd have to keep a list of "offending politicians," and deny them all the Eucharist, you can't just choose the president
And?
Either you have beliefs and doctrine or you have none.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:07 pm to Freauxzen
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hesitancy is ok. We are in a completely different world than even 30 years ago
If you believe in your principles, you don't change for expediency.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:31 pm to Freauxzen
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Now, these things are public and championed, and a step to withhold the Eucharist, mind you millions of Catholic in sin take it every weekend, is actually politicizing it.
That’s where you are wrong. Abortion is a mortal sin and supporting those who have an abortion or the funding/assistance of one is wrong whether it’s public or in private. God doesn’t only see public sin - he sees every sin. Withholding the Eucharist from those in mortal sin was the right thing to do in the church on day one and it’s the right thing to do today. The church either has beliefs and convictions or it doesn’t.
Who the hell are YOU to say it’s ok to give the Eucharist to someone in mortal sin today just because that mortal sin happens to be a common mortal sin?
It was wrong then and it’s wrong now.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:59 am to Freauxzen
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Now, these things are public and championed, and a step to withhold the Eucharist, mind you millions of Catholic in sin take it every weekend, is actually politicizing it.
bullshite.
If I stand on the Church steps before 9:30 Mass and proclaim I am in favor of abortion and gay marriage and that the Church is defying God by its doctrine, the priest should ignore that and give me the Body of Christ during that very Mass?
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