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re: [The Athletic] What An Expanded Playoff May Look Like

Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:01 am to
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:01 am to
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The difference between CBB’s best is far smaller compared to CFB. Often times the 2nd ranked team is capable of smashing the 15th ranked team by 30 points. In the sport of basketball, the blowouts aren’t as large.

95% of the time those games are blowouts, hell it wasn't until recently that a 16 seed beat a 1 seed yet there's no call to shrink the CBB bracket. Your argument holds little weight as upsets do happen in college football
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That’s why G5 teams should not get auto bids. Under no circumstance does a 5 loss G5 belong in a playoff.

I'm not saying they do but they are the only team there without double digit wins so you're whole orginal point thats a bunch of 4 loss teams will enter the playoffs is false
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playoff featuring Bama, AU, ND, Michigan, etc. is going to bring in far higher ratings then one featuring FAU, Memphis, Miami (OH), etc.

So then give the G5 teams autos and make the rest at large
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We’ve already seen that most of the playoff games have been blowouts.

That's not the point again the point is to give the right amount of teams a chance. Sure Bama may beat Oregon or Wisconsin in the first round but it's not a guarantee.

Expansion can only help other schools especially smaller schools recruiting wise as our current format makes it nearly impossible for those teams to make it
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:11 am to
An 8 team playoff is coming. It will generate more excitement at the end of the season but it will most definitely allow a 2 loss team into the playoff.

Diminishing returns vs fan excitement.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:50 am to
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95% of the time those games are blowouts, hell it wasn't until recently that a 16 seed beat a 1 seed yet there's no call to shrink the CBB bracket. Your argument holds little weight as upsets do happen in college football


Of course upsets happen but it’s even more likely to happen in CBB. And a 16th seed in CBB isn't remotely the same as a 16th seed in CFB. If you watch March Madness you should know that. A 16th seed in CBB is like the 64-68th overall seed. The equivalent of the 16th seed in CFB would be like a 4th seed in the bracket.

The way the sport is designed, massive blowouts are more common in CFB. Often times you’ll see two CBB teams that are tied or close at the half. Maybe the better team wins by 10 in the end, but the other team had a chance has more often. Meanwhile in CFB it’s more common to see one obviously better team already crushing the weaker team by 21 at the half.

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I'm not saying they do but they are the only team there without double digit wins so you're whole orginal point thats a bunch of 4 loss teams will enter the playoffs is false

Auto bids open the possibility of it happening and it should never. But you seemed to missed my point with the 2nd statement.

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So then give the G5 teams autos and make the rest at large

They won’t, that’s my point. I’m not arguing what should or shouldn’t happen. I’m arguing what most likely will happen if the playoffs are expanded to as many as 16 teams. You may argue that I don’t know that, but I’m going based off how we’ve seen the G5 teams treated by the media and the CFB higher ups. They don’t care much about them.

So if there was an expanded 16 team playoffs, it’s much more likely it’ll be the P5 auto bids with 11 at large rather then all conference champ auto bid with 6 at large. Still don’t believe that? Just look at your 2019 hypothetical. Make a list of one with no G5 auto bids and one with the G5 auto bids. Are you going to seriously tell me the higher ups will select the list with a MAC and Sun Belt champ over teams like Bama, AU, ND, or Michigan?

So what will happen? You’ll have 3 to sometimes 4 loss teams getting in. Hell I don’t think a 2 loss Bama team deserved in 2019. But they would rather put in a 3 loss 14th ranked P5 non champ over a 21st ranked G5 champ. You want a drastically expanded playoffs? That’s most likely what you’re going to get.

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That's not the point again the point is to give the right amount of teams a chance. Sure Bama may beat Oregon or Wisconsin in the first round but it's not a guarantee. Expansion can only help other schools especially smaller schools recruiting wise as our current format makes it nearly impossible for those teams to make it


Funny that you think they care about “fairness” over ratings. The only reason they are considering an expanded playoffs is because of ratings and therefore more money. And putting in more big name teams, not G5 teams, will get them those ratings.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:09 pm to
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yet there's no call to shrink the CBB bracket.


Because coaches and AD’a keep their job by saying “We made the tournament”. That’s why. There are also 350 schools playing D1 basketball
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