re: I keep hearing Adams is a huge issue with us giving up the 3...

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If Adams wasn't on the team would you want to use $17 million in cap space to add him this offseason? Maybe on a one year deal if no other options panned out, but you wouldn't give him 2/$34. That extension was made to justify the high price Griff paid to acquire him, not to save the Pels future money. It was throwing good money after bad, and until Griff finds a trade to undo it, it's going to be viewed as a mistake.

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I said this multiple times in his trade thread. Most of you argued with me that he would get 12-13 a year and when it was announced that he would get 17.5, I was told that was still a good deal for a ‘ top 5-10’ center.

Griff didn’t lean anything from Dells mistakes. Like I said, he should have went with someone cheap on a one year deal and remained flexible. Same shite Dell did choosing to resign Asik on that stupid contract instead of letting him walk.

No arguing now, everyone knows it was a massive overpay in trade value and on the contract given. Many cheap options were out there for a one year.