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re: Marvel goes all in on racism with captain america
Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:13 pm to Kino74
Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:13 pm to Kino74
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I use to read and collect them. The difference you failed to understand is back then they disparaged racism, not push anti white extremism we see today.
Marvel isn't pushing anti-white extremism. If that's your perception, that's your issue. quote:Uh, the character is literally named Captain America, and the current story is about how much it means to be that symbol. Should be clear that they do not hate America. The stories speak out against the people in charge, the ones profiting from war, conducting secret unethical programs, the "deep state", etc. Seems like the kind of thing that would appeal to this board, but you're too busy looking for shite to get offended over.
They didn't hate their country
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:31 pm to Korkstand
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Marvel isn't pushing anti-white extremism. If that's your perception, that's your issue.
Lol like a certain female black character playing Iron Man. Maybe change sexual orientation or race of established characters. Get real.
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Seems like the kind of thing that would appeal to this board, but you're too busy looking for shite to get offended over.
Wrong. I'm just not the one trying to rationalize left wing extremism as patriotism and anti racism. Huge difference between supporting the view of equality and fairness versus condemning one race as inherently evil.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 2:50 am to Korkstand
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Marvel isn't pushing anti-white extremism. If that's your perception, that's your issue.
Episode 5, falcon and winter soldier says "da frick you say..."
It goes way off the rails into "dat white man's shield"
Posted on 4/17/21 at 5:57 am to Korkstand
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Marvel isn't pushing anti-white extremism. If that's your perception, that's your issue.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:28 am to Korkstand
A large number of black people hate this country and everything it stands for and are offended by anything a white person does or says
Posted on 4/17/21 at 8:02 am to Korkstand
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Marvel isn't pushing anti-white extremism. If that's your perception, that's your issue.
Correct, they're not just limiting their extremism to the white demographic.
Go ahead, try and find a similar situation. Try and find someone Marvel is calling a Nazi/Hitler 40 or 50 years ago who's a best selling author whose opinions are shared by roughly half the country.
While you're at it, go ahead and try and find Marvel using a a similar tactic on a Republican or Democrat presidential nomination. Trump's mostly running on a secure the borders campaign? Let's paint anyone who agrees as a neo-Nazi...
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...and the current story is about how much it means to be that symbol.
I tuned in just to see how bad it would be, and managed to half way (was doing a bit of paperwork as well) watch two episodes. It's cringy AF. In the first episode we see a white bank manager declining a loan to Sam Wilson (The Falcon). The next episode a white police officer harasses Sam but completely ignores the white guy with him (Bucky - the Winter Soldier).
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Why does it make you uncomfortable when someone of a different race plays the part?
Good question to ask, as that's exactly what caused these changes in the first place.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 8:04 am
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:31 pm to Korkstand
quote:After Captain America played out the Hitler / Nazi angles, the comics shifted to Hydra, the very depiction of a "Deep State". Probably responsible for a lot of the Deep State fever dreams you see today.
Uh, the character is literally named Captain America, and the current story is about how much it means to be that symbol. Should be clear that they do not hate America. The stories speak out against the people in charge, the ones profiting from war, conducting secret unethical programs, the "deep state", etc. Seems like the kind of thing that would appeal to this board, but you're too busy looking for shite to get offended over.
But Marvel has heroes fighting racial injustice and stereotypes dating back the the 60's and 70's. So yeah, I don't see the huge issue with the series that are largely following cannon that was introduced decades ago.
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