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re: Wisconsin Hospital Replaces All Anesthesiologists with CRNAs

Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:23 pm to
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Why exactly? They have the same exact privileges as a MD.


But not the same training or level of expertise. They do “adjustments” FFS, like chiropractors. They are not trained in medical schools and they don’t have equivalent intelligences.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:40 pm to
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But not the same training or level of expertise. They do “adjustments” FFS, like chiropractors. They are not trained in medical schools and they don’t have equivalent intelligences.



lmao I believe you are referring to DO's if so you are hilariously uninformed (or trolling).

same material is covered in both medical schools, but also DO's waste time learning garbage adjustments. Many DOs take the USMLE which is the test MDs take during school. They train in the exact same residencies, at the exact same level, to gain the exact same expertise, to do the exact same job.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 5:42 pm
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4378 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 5:46 pm to
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But not the same training or level of expertise. They do “adjustments” FFS, like chiropractors. They are not trained in medical schools and they don’t have equivalent intelligences.


Eh. A lot of DO schools have higher admission stats than many MD schools. Plus most of the Caribbean schools are MD granting institutions.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:16 pm to
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But not the same training or level of expertise. They do “adjustments” FFS, like chiropractors. They are not trained in medical schools and they don’t have equivalent intelligences.



Yeah, no one gives a shite about the distinction anymore, as evidenced the fact that the ACGME and AOA started a merger in 2014 so that there is a single accreditation system for graduate medical education, as already referenced in this thread. Which means they do have the same exact training, sit for the same exams, compete for the same residencies, etc. I think another unique quirk might be that MDs can apply for old AOA residencies, but I'm not at that portion of my education yet, so I can't say for sure.

The existence of DOs is due to peculiar quirks of American history and its relationship with the traditional mode of medicine at the time, called Heroic Medicine. I highly suggest you read The Social Transformation of American Medicine by Paul Starr to get an inkling at how crazy the practice of medicine was before the Civil War, because it was a direct response to the practice of heroic medicine that alternative therapies began, which includes virtually every tradition of medicine, including allopathic, osteopathic, chiropractic, and naturopathic, among others.

In another weird quirk, one of the largest private medical schools in the country was teaching homeopathy until the late 20s, though the naming history of that school is convoluted. It is now Drexel, but at one time was associated with Samuel Hahnemann, the founder of homeopathy. The history of American medicine, especially in the antebellum period, is tremendously interesting.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:17 pm to
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But not the same training or level of expertise. They do “adjustments” FFS, like chiropractors. They are not trained in medical schools and they don’t have equivalent intelligences.


DOs are physicians. They do four years of medical school, take the same courses and learn the same information as allopathic medical students. They take the same exams, and then train at the same residency programs.

Trump's personal physician is a DO. Biden's personal physician is a DO. Walk into any hospital or clinic and pay attention to the letters after the names of the clinicians - you will notice many of them are "DO" rather than MD.

The distinction is similar to DDS/DMD in dentistry.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 6:23 pm
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