Yeah- he had a lot of success at LSU. Way I look at it - winning with Saban’s players - meant winning with the players that had the mentality from being coached by Saban - and able to let it stay with them. Miles continued to recruit well - but ROI was steadily declining. Saban not only built the program - he made it a national brand - he totally increased the value- which paved the way for the next fella to have success. Recall hearing O after NC game in interview - was along the lines of - place like LSU- anybody can be successful- I took it as, an idiot can do this here, if they do t Fook it up.

Mentioned in this thread by a few others, frustration with crap miles would do, yet have the tinge of guilt bc he was a supposed great guy. Strong fam man, approachable, quirky chit made him a character, all that crap-

So to after all that- to come to find out seems like we were all lied too about this high moral character, great guy deal. Like we all have to relive all of that shite now- 1/9, fournette at lambeau, up 21-0 at Tenn, using a sun dial as clock management, all of it- like we were cheated that we couldn’t be as mad, or hammer on him as much as needed bc- well damnit he was such a
Nice guy. We been cheated out of our hate!

Strange - this coming out is a shock- but not shocking how he went about it. Hard headed, dude, and I think a bit delusional. You get a stay of execution on best gig you ever had or ever will have- and what do you do diff? Nothing, you double down.

Now look at Saban over at bama- def minded, hard nosed type persona- not only has he evolved as a coach- he didn’t just change with the times, he saw it coming, and made the changes before he had to.

Regardless how we all perceive this- one thing I would think we could all agree on, we feel disgusted with this whole shite show, just a damn sordid mess.