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re: AFCI Breaker Issue *SOLVED*

Posted on 3/7/21 at 9:32 am to
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3200 posts
Posted on 3/7/21 at 9:32 am to
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Doesn’t sound like he has a plug on neutral. The types he listed out are the original Siemens AF and the combination AF
Okay, gang. I'm still fighting this due to my ignorance. I've bought a 'normal' 15 amp Siemens breaker which has a single wire connection. This is consistent with the other 'normal' breakers in my panel which leads me to believe I have a 'plug on neutral' type breaker panel. What is driving me nuts is that the only AFCI breakers I can find have a pigtail for 'neutral on panel'. I'm 99% certain when I had the cover off of the panel that there were only two wires going into the AFCI breaker -- meaning there was no pigtail for 'neutral on panel'.

Is it possible that the AFCI breaker is both a 'plug on neutral' and they provide the pigtail in case the panel is not a 'plug on neutral' type of panel? In other words, I can just cut the pigtail off and install the breaker and I'm good?

Thanks.
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20939 posts
Posted on 3/7/21 at 2:54 pm to
Even if you have the plug on neutral type panel you should still be able to use that arc fault breaker that has the neutral attached to it. Just plug the breaker in on the bus and attach the wire to the neutral bar.

I have never actually had to do this but logic tells me that it should still work.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33984 posts
Posted on 3/7/21 at 5:48 pm to
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This is consistent with the other 'normal' breakers in my panel which leads me to believe I have a 'plug on neutral' type breaker panel.


Siemens introduced their plug on neutral loadcenters April of 2020. If you have a model number listed on the inside of the cover I could tell you what you have
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33984 posts
Posted on 3/7/21 at 5:49 pm to
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Is it possible that the AFCI breaker is both a 'plug on neutral' and they provide the pigtail in case the panel is not a 'plug on neutral' type of panel? In other words, I can just cut the pigtail off and install the breaker and I'm good?


No, this is not possible
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