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re: When will Tsnp crash??

Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:53 am to
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:53 am to
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They did not choose a SPAC. Maybe the current market sentiment about SPACS made them use a reverse merger instead? Maybe they didn’t want to be owned. It’s not like SPACs are investing. They are buying and acquiring. Here’s a good article.


A few thoughts. Reputation wise, a reverse merger into effectively an OTC shell sentiment wise is on the low end of the spectrum. As I noted, you and I can buy an OTC shell for as low as $50K if we wanted to.

Two - the vast vast majority of SPACS do not take control of the Company. In the old days, yeah more SPACS took controlling stake, now is it 95% the other way. SPACS are like a private equity investment of 5-40% of the Company.

Three - Where the logic is challenged is that in this 'reverse merger', if we believe their press release, they only acquired the common shares of the guy who passed. Thus, 80% of TSNP common equity stayed with outside parties... so they effectively gave away 80% of common equity for the privilege of listing on the OTC? Yes, per the press release, the HUMBL folks were issued preferred to take control - but we do not know the terms of the preferred because they have not filed the agreement (in violation of OTC rules by the way). We don't have the agreement; we don't know the terms; we don't know the financials; hell in terms of the basic warrants to FWDLY there are four different assertions to the terms depending on what press release or tweet you believe.

So how I frame the question for the bulls is this. If Humble is worth several billion dollars, why did they give away 80% of common equity (which has a market cap in the billions based off current trading), to merger with an OTC shell. What possibly could be a rationale reason for that? I am sorry, but I am perplexed to see what a rationale reason could be.

And I am perplexed to be honest how passionately people defend a deal that they have not seen one source piece of information on. No deal, no financials, no patents, no agreements, no equity structure, no transparency... nothing. Yet people have raging passion. It is a little disturbing IMO.

That being said, I hope to be wrong and I hope you guys rock it
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10448 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:03 am to
Don't go on his Discord chat and bring up any rational dissenting information. You will be booted quickly if you don't PUMP his stocks.
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1633 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:06 am to
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A few thoughts. Reputation wise, a reverse merger into effectively an OTC shell sentiment wise is on the low end of the spectrum. As I noted, you and I can buy an OTC shell for as low as $50K if we wanted to.

Two - the vast vast majority of SPACS do not take control of the Company. In the old days, yeah more SPACS took controlling stake, now is it 95% the other way. SPACS are like a private equity investment of 5-40% of the Company.

Three - Where the logic is challenged is that in this 'reverse merger', if we believe their press release, they only acquired the common shares of the guy who passed. Thus, 80% of TSNP common equity stayed with outside parties... so they effectively gave away 80% of common equity for the privilege of listing on the OTC? Yes, per the press release, the HUMBL folks were issued preferred to take control - but we do not know the terms of the preferred because they have not filed the agreement (in violation of OTC rules by the way). We don't have the agreement; we don't know the terms; we don't know the financials; hell in terms of the basic warrants to FWDLY there are four different assertions to the terms depending on what press release or tweet you believe.

So how I frame the question for the bulls is this. If Humble is worth several billion dollars, why did they give away 80% of common equity (which has a market cap in the billions based off current trading), to merger with an OTC shell. What possibly could be a rationale reason for that? I am sorry, but I am perplexed to see what a rationale reason could be.

And I am perplexed to be honest how passionately people defend a deal that they have not seen one source piece of information on. No deal, no financials, no patents, no agreements, no equity structure, no transparency... nothing. Yet people have raging passion. It is a little disturbing IMO.

That being said, I hope to be wrong and I hope you guys rock it


Now this is how you frame one's opposing point of view. I absolutely see your point. I guesss I am not as concerned since I do not have a huge stake in it. I like the stock and am excited about the potential, but it is a single digit percentage of my investment. I also think whether you own 100 or 1,000,000 shares, it's just fun to see it grow by 2800%. Hell I have an old IRA account with a guaranteed 4% for the last 20 years. It makes money, but damn it is boring.
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