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re: Anyone else concerned about Ingram?

Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:26 pm to
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What about having zero continuity and a shitty, non-complimentary roster is not a legitimate excuse to be bad?



Yeah, b/c we are the only team with this zero continuity excuse, whatever that means, or a shitty non-complimentary roster. The Grizz were the wrost 3 point shooting team last year, and aren't much better this year, yet they aren't bitching about spacing or being a bottom 4 team.

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Christian Wood is a 23-11 fringe all-star and likely most improved player winner,


we have a guy that actually made an all star team.

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PJ Tucker is another unicorn that can hit 40% on threes and defend centers or small forwards,

He's just one defender. Steven Adams is just as good a defender. Tucker can only make 3's from the corner, literally. Over 75% of his threes the last 3 years have been taken from the corner. He's not some unicorn 3 point shooter. He's basically Bruce Bowen, can literally only shoot from the corner.

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John Wall is shooting the best of his career

So is Bledsoe
And John Wall has missed 7 games this year, and the Rockets are 2-5 in those games.

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That is a VERY solid and COMPLIMENTARY starting unit


Sure its solid, but it has ZERO continuity, or does that not matter b/c they are winning?

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They have the best version of Cousins we have seen since his injury, Eric Gordon averaging 17 a game on good shooting, and guys like McLemore hitting 41% on 4 three attempts a game coming off their bench


Cousins has looked terrible. EG has shot under his career 3P% for 4 years in a row now. His 3 best years of his career from 3 were the last 3 in New Orleans, and he's been no where hear that from since then. McLemore probably won't be in the league next year.


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In what fricking world do you think our roster is more cohesive and better than the Rockets? In what world does that roster even stink???? It's a legit 6-8 seed roster if healthy. Would have been the most cohesive and best roster Harden would have had in years.


I don't think either roster is that well constructed. But one team is playing much better than the other.


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So then why are you making endless excuses for these other teams and denying them for the Pels?



i'm literally saying that those teams aren't making excuses, even though they have some to make. You're making excuses for our shortcomings, and i'm pointing out that other teams are facing similar issues, and many of them worst issues than we are, yet aren't losing like us.



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Maybe if you spent less time making excuses for why the roster would magically have good spacing instead of just accepting the reality I and people like Zach Lowe tried to point out before the season started, you could have avoided this melt by recognizing that our potential struggles were always there to see if you weren't just wanting to live in a world of sunshine pumping with rose-colored glasses on...



I'm just not one to accept excuses when your healthy. It's one thing if you are having to play games without your full team, especially when starters are missing big chunks of games. We've been one of the least affected teams in the league by injuries and covid BS. What we are doing is unexplainable. We had a 30 point lead in the 3rd quarter against the Buck and won by 4. How many games have we had where we had double digit leads only to lose by double digits? How come we can play 2-3 quarters of good offense, and then just completely shite the bed? Explain to me how we can not have spacing issues for half the game, but then have spacing issues for the other half, and they be so apparent that they give us zero chance to win?


Do you not find this odd?
We are 4th in the league in 1st quarter scoring. We are 3rd in opponents scoring, meaning 3rd best at defense.
We are 28th in 2nd quarter scoring. 29th on defense.
We are 25th in 3rd quarter scoring. 24th on defense.
We are 12th in 4th quarter scoring. 11th on defense.

How can we come out great almost every game, then be terrible the rest of the way?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 4:57 pm to
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Yeah, b/c we are the only team with this zero continuity excuse, whatever that means, or a shitty non-complimentary roster. The Grizz were the wrost 3 point shooting team last year, and aren't much better this year, yet they aren't bitching about spacing or being a bottom 4 team.


None of those teams have both those problems, but you only want to make excuses for them, and deny them for the Pels. It's telling that your wanted the narrative to meet your pre-determined conclusions instead of objectively looking at the situation.

You really learned nothing from your logic patterns to start the season huh? When you went on and on about how spacing wouldn't be a problem, how we weren't gonna take a big step back, how this just had to be a good team.

You set your expectations unrealistically high and are melting and once again blaming others for those unrealistic expectations not being met.

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we have a guy that actually made an all star team.


They have two, technically three. And they actually complement one another to go with that whole roster. We do not have that luxury, but you again want to pretend otherwise.

And you can cherry-pick whatever you want, continue with the lopsided excuse game, but Rockets Bench >>>> Pels Bench, the total complementary nature of the Rockets >>>> Pels. And it's not even close. They are a floor balanced, veteran-led, blue-collar team with complementary pieces and solid depth. None of those things you can say about the Pels.

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i'm literally saying that those teams aren't making excuses, even though they have some to make. You're making excuses for our shortcomings, and i'm pointing out that other teams are facing similar issues, and many of them worst issues than we are, yet aren't losing like us.


No, but you are making excuses. Continuously and habitually. While denying them for the Pels. Which you literally go on to do after stating this. You want to give out excuses left and right to the Raptors, Heat, and Mavericks for their near equally poor play, but refuse to acknowledge even the ones that were prophesized to you months ago, like the problematic makeup of this roster.

Melt all you want, but stop trying to pretend this was some unforeseen event and that everything and everyone is trash because you, up to this moment even, refuse to see reality as it really is. Which is that this team was/is in a shitty situation coming into this season and in it's early goings, going to war with a very questionable lineup that we needed to assume all sorts of things going the perfect way just to be on pace for the play-in.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 5:09 pm
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