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re: Anyone else concerned about Ingram?

Posted on 2/2/21 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 3:06 pm to
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You want to give them excuses(which are valid), but deny or handwave the Pels equally valid ones? Seems to me you just want to make a tilted argument to justify some emotional outrage...


Are we playing without our best player for half the season?
Are we playing without 3 starters for half the season?

We don't have these legitimate excuses. Hell this feels like the healthiest we've been in 10 years.
Our excuses are the same exact excuses the Rockets could be making, but they aren't.

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The supporting roster stinks, it is not complimentary or the final form this team plans to go to war with. We lack any continuity and very little space to gain it in the schedule


Our roster does stink. SO does the Rockets. So does the worst 3 poitn shooting team 2 years in a row Grizzlies. Yet they aren't a bottom 5 team like us.

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One of the hardest and most brutal schedules in the league with a non-complimentary roster


what a tired excuse. This isn't the NFL where you can legitimately have a much easier schedule than others in your conference. Our schedule is no harder than just about every other western conference team.
You know the other day at the end of the Lakers equally long road trip like we had, Lebron came out and basically said he doens't care about the road trip excuses, and that it doesn't matter what the excuse is, they have to play better, we are professionals. That's what winners say. Losers make excuses.

we've played 19 games thus far. 10 of them were against teams that either had expectations below us, or equal to us. We are 4-6 in those games. 6 of our next 8 games are similar in that strength.



You can't tell me any rational person expected us to be this bad, bottom 4 bad. It's one thing to have an expectation to struggle and finish as a 35 win team, it's another to finish with sub 30 wins. You're a pathetic team if you can't even win 30 games, assuming an 82 game schedule.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 3:32 pm to
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Are we playing without our best player for half the season?
Are we playing without 3 starters for half the season?

We don't have these legitimate excuses. Hell this feels like the healthiest we've been in 10 years.
Our excuses are the same exact excuses the Rockets could be making, but they aren't.



What about having zero continuity and a shitty, non-complimentary roster is not a legitimate excuse to be bad?

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Our roster does stink. SO does the Rockets. So does the worst 3 poitn shooting team 2 years in a row Grizzlies. Yes they aren't a bottom 5 team like us.



Christian Wood is a 23-11 fringe all-star and likely most improved player winner, PJ Tucker is another unicorn that can hit 40% on threes and defend centers or small forwards, John Wall is shooting the best of his career and barely looks to have lost a step from the Achilles, and Victor Oladipo is a vet allstar. That is a VERY solid and COMPLIMENTARY starting unit. They have the best version of Cousins we have seen since his injury, Eric Gordon averaging 17 a game on good shooting, and guys like McLemore hitting 41% on 4 three attempts a game coming off their bench vs Hayes, Hart, and NAW for us.

In what fricking world do you think our roster is more cohesive and better than the Rockets? In what world does that roster even stink???? It's a legit 6-8 seed roster if healthy. Would have been the most cohesive and best roster Harden would have had in years.

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That's what winners say. Losers make excuses.



So then why are you making endless excuses for these other teams and denying them for the Pels?

Either variables are valid to consider or they aren't. If you only want to accept them one way it's because you are trying to make a confirmation biased derived argument.

Fact is Pelicans have had a top 5 SOS, an absolutely brutal road trip, teams like the Heat have lost, when healthy, to guys like Charlotte just yesterday, at home, with rest. And we have a non-complimentary roster, no continuity, and the 6th youngest team in the league. A slow, sometimes painful first half of the season, and frustrations through the end, with the possibility of another lottery, should have always been in the cards, and if you didn't have it in there, that's on your expectations.

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You can't tell me any rational person expected us to be this bad, bottom 4 bad. It's one thing to have an expectation to struggle and finish as a 35 win team, it's another to finish with sub 30 wins. You're a pathetic team if you can't even win 30 games, assuming an 82 game schedule.


Maybe if you spent less time making excuses for why the roster would magically have good spacing instead of just accepting the reality I and people like Zach Lowe tried to point out before the season started, you could have avoided this melt by recognizing that our potential struggles were always there to see if you weren't just wanting to live in a world of sunshine pumping with rose-colored glasses on...

The harm from the lack of continuity is worse than even I thought, but I said in the schedule thread we would come back from that road trip below .500, that from there a lot would come down to how teams like PHO, SAS, and HOU look, and all look better than I think anyone anticipated. I said the range was from around.500 ball after the first 36 games to maybe going on a run after the road trip depending on how bad those teams and others look...And unfortunately, they don't look as bad as I hoped.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 3:38 pm
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