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re: How does TEXIT avoid losing our independence vote like Scotland did in 2014?

Posted on 1/15/21 at 8:47 pm to
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 1/15/21 at 8:47 pm to
You should also analyze the independence movement of Quebec in Canada.

Without looking, I believe there was one referendum that was voted against by around 55%.

I dated a leftist girl from Montreal a few years back and spent a little time there.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/15/21 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Without looking, I believe there was one referendum that was voted against by around 55%.
probably because being in Canada was a net benefit to them as opposed to being their own country... and Canada would have let them go too. What does that say about them?
Posted by EKG
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:00 pm to
Interesting thought.

A quick Wikipedia glance says ...
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Supporters of sovereignty for Quebec believe that the current relationship between Quebec and the rest of Canada does not reflect Quebec's best social, political and economic development interests. Moreover, many subscribe to the notion that without appropriately recognizing that the people of Quebec are culturally distinct, Quebec will remain chronically disadvantaged in favour of the English-Canadian majority. There is also the question of whether the French language can survive within the geographic boundaries of Quebec and where French-Canadian society and culture fits into what is an increasingly multicultural country. Separatists and Independentists are generally opposed to some aspects of the federal system in Canada and do not believe it can be reformed in a way that could satisfy the needs of Quebec's French-speaking majority. A key component in the argument in favour of overt political independence is that new legislation and a new system of governance could best secure the future development of modern Québécois culture.

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... the 1995 Quebec sovereignty movement was a tight vote, The "No" campaign won, but only by a very small margin — 50.6% to 49.4%. As in the previous referendum (1989), the English-speaking (anglophone) minority in Quebec overwhelmingly (about 90%) rejected sovereignty, and support for sovereignty was also weak among allophones (native speakers of neither English nor French) in immigrant communities and first-generation descendants. The lowest support for the “Yes” side came from Mohawk, Cree and Inuit voters in Quebec, some first Nations chiefs asserted their right to self-determination with the Cree being particularly vocal in their right to stay territories within Canada. More than 96% of the Inuit and Cree voted No in the referendum. However, The Innu, Attikamek, Algonquin and Abenaki nations did partially support Quebec sovereignty. I

By contrast almost 60 percent of francophones of all origins voted "Yes" (82 per cent of Quebecers are Francophone.). Later inquiries into irregularities determined that abuses had occurred on both sides: Some argue that "No" ballots had been rejected without valid reasons, and the October 27, 1995 "No" rally had evaded spending limitations because of out-of-province participation.


So basically French speakers want independence; English speakers don’t.
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