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Posted on 12/19/20 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by Dixie.Reb
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 2:38 pm to
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How many of those male kickers are interviewed after the game for the squib kick? How many are called heroes for their squib kick? How many are given player of the week honors for their squib kick


This is why I brought up Jackie Robinson. Of course the fact that she was the first woman to play in a P5 game was a factor in the interviews and publicity. Just like Jackie Robinson got more attention for breaking the color barrier than other players who might have had similar stats. You are simultaneously saying she got the opportunity because of gender and that you don’t understand why it’s such a big deal. Just doesn’t make sense to me.

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As opposed to making the decision to give the opposing team the ball with decidedly great field position, just so you can put your PR stunt in the game?


Do you feel just as strongly about all the other coaches who give opponents starting field position around the 35 due to squib kicks? Somehow I don’t think so

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To be clear, you are doing the exact same thing, except arguing that it wasn’t.


No. I’m saying that I have no reason to doubt coaches who say that she was the best option. she was qualified for her role regardless of why she got it in the first place. And the fact that you can’t admit that she was capable is based on your own bias rather than any verifiable facts.
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 7:18 pm to
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This is why I brought up Jackie Robinson.


Yes because you’re an idiot that wants to compare one of the best baseball players of all time to a blatant PR stunt.

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Of course the fact that she was the first woman to play in a P5 game was a factor in the interviews and publicity.


You said earlier in this thread that different standards for men and women is a bad thing, yet you clearly have no issue with it being done repeatedly in this situation. Why is that exactly?

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Just like Jackie Robinson got more attention for breaking the color barrier than other players who might have had similar stats.


Jackie Robinson was a great baseball player before he ever donned an MLB uniform.

The fact that you continue to attempt to reduce Jackie Robinson - great baseball player to Jackie Robinson - black person in continually failing attempts to pretend like Sarah fuller isnt only getting the things she’s getting because she’s a woman is beyond pathetic and says everything that needs to be said about you.

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You are simultaneously saying she got the opportunity because of gender and that you don’t understand why it’s such a big deal.


I understand perfectly well that everything Sarah fuller has gotten as it relates to college football is due solely to the fact that she is a woman. There is absolutely no confusion on my part. I’m also saying that’s wrong. You’re the one that’s having a difficult time comprehending this. Which is strange, considering your stance of men and women having different standards = bad.

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Just doesn’t make sense to me.


This is literally the least shocking thing you’ve posted. It doesn’t seem anything makes sense to you. And you’ve argued yourself into being a hypocrite multiple times in this thread.

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Do you feel just as strongly about all the other coaches who give opponents starting field position around the 35 due to squib kicks? Somehow I don’t think so


How many times did Vanderbilt squib kick this year outside of that 1 attempt? I know the answer, but I’ll await for you to find it for yourself and then attempt to reconcile with the statement above.

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No. I’m saying that I have no reason to doubt coaches who say that she was the best option.


This goes back to this lack of common sense and basic understanding of athletic feats we pointed out you do not have earlier in the thread. There are multiple players on Vanderbilt’s roster with kicking experience. Their regular XP kicker was available in the last game. I don’t care what words come out of the coaches mouths. Common sense and basic thinking say otherwise.

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she was qualified for her role regardless of why she got it in the first place.


Her role required she squib kick when that is not part of Vanderbilt’s typical kickoff strategy. How was she qualified for role?

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And the fact that you can’t admit that she was capable is based on your own bias rather than any verifiable facts.


A team that never squib kicks did so for the 1 instance she was put in the game. You can’t admit they squib kicked because she wasn’t capable of doing what a normal kicker is expected to do in the situation she was put in.

The regular kicker that was 9/9 on XPs for the year was available and played in the same game she kicked extra points. You can’t admit the only reason she was given those opportunities over the normal kicker is because she’s a woman.

And once again, both of the above statements are especially strange considering your stance of men and women having different standards being a bad thing.
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