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The Ringer on the Stan van Gundy hire
Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:18 pm
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“They got eight guys on that team who have played a lot, who are 25 or younger. And they mix them with some veteran guys who are not only still really good players—Jrue Holiday, JJ Redick, Derrick Favors, E’Twaun Moore, and then [Nicolò] Melli, who comes in from Europe. So they’ve got a nice mix,” he told Zach Lowe. “I’m bullish on this team. This team is exciting. They’ve got a lot of options.”
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Most germane to the discussion of Van Gundy’s “abilities as a teacher with a young roster,” though—skills he’s honed over the years in shepherding the development of players like Dwyane Wade, Udonis Haslem, Dwight Howard, Jameer Nelson, and Redick, who recently credited Van Gundy as having “a bigger impact on [his] career than any coach [he’s] played for”—is his penchant for preparation, organization, and ensuring that his teams don’t screw up the small stuff.
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“To me, the areas for them are, they’ve got to take care of the ball—their turnovers actually went up in the time they had Zion, they were last in the league in the last 20 games,” Van Gundy told Lowe. “They’ve got to get committed to the defensive end of the floor. At some point, you’re going to have to do a better job getting back on defense, and you’re going to have to do a better job protecting the paint. Like, I just don’t know if you can build a good enough defense if you don’t do those two things. I think their personnel is good enough defensively. … The players are going to have to show a much greater sense of urgency at that end of the floor if they’re going to get to where we think they can get.”
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Cleaning the Glass tracks a stat called “location effective field goal percentage,” which looks at all of the shots a team takes, and asks how efficiently its offense would operate if its players hit a league-average share of them. The idea is to take a snapshot of a team’s shot profile: How well are you doing at generating chances from the most efficient areas of the court (at the rim, from the charity stripe, in the short corners) that typically lead to the most effective and potent offenses? And, conversely, on the defensive side, how good a job are you doing at preventing those tasty looks? The worst showing ever for a Van Gundy defense came in 2014-15, his first season in Detroit; the Pistons still came in above league average, finishing 14th in opponents’ shot profile. His teams landed in the top 10 in every single other season, including eight top-fives and five no. 1 finishes—once in Miami, three times in Orlando, and once with Detroit.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:41 pm to hendersonshands
It’s amazing how he could dissect the very issues that plagued this team even though he had no affiliation with the team in July. The man knows his stuff from just looking at the team from the outside. Now just imagine the things he’ll be able to identify once he has in house data available to him ie. film and analytics.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:04 pm to hendersonshands
Today I learned you can gain an erection from reading a basketball news article.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:05 pm to supe12sta12z
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It’s amazing how he could dissect the very issues that plagued this team even though he had no affiliation with the team in July. The man knows his stuff \just looking at the team from the outside. Now just imagine the things he’ll be able to identify once he has in house data available to him ie. film and analytics.
The stats he quoted (and subsequent inferences he made) are publicly available from stats.nba.com
Getting back on defence and protecting the paint are not some savant type insight. It's fairly basic analysis that 100 posters here would have mentioned throughout the season.
Not trying to downplay his obvious skill as a coach, but you shouldn't be coronating him on the back of the snippets of this interview
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:32 pm to Pelefraan 1
Not really braw. How many analyst have you seen made in-depth analysis of the team that hits the nail on the coffin at pretty much every turn from the outside? I can count countless baseless horseshite analysis through the entire year that made absolutely no sense. For him to be familiar with not only the stats but the players themselves is fricking impressive as hell. This isn’t some average joe take on the Pelicans. His analysis was pretty high level with logic and reasoning.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:42 pm to supe12sta12z
He’s always been really good in the spots Lebatard has him on
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:01 pm to hendersonshands
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Cleaning the Glass tracks a stat called “location effective field goal percentage,” which looks at all of the shots a team takes, and asks how efficiently its offense would operate if its players hit a league-average share of them. The idea is to take a snapshot of a team’s shot profile: How well are you doing at generating chances from the most efficient areas of the court (at the rim, from the charity stripe, in the short corners) that typically lead to the most effective and potent offenses? And, conversely, on the defensive side, how good a job are you doing at preventing those tasty looks? The worst showing ever for a Van Gundy defense came in 2014-15, his first season in Detroit; the Pistons still came in above league average, finishing 14th in opponents’ shot profile. His teams landed in the top 10 in every single other season, including eight top-fives and five no. 1 finishes—once in Miami, three times in Orlando, and once with Detroit.
I am **erect**
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:51 pm to supe12sta12z
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It’s amazing how he could dissect the very issues that plagued this team even though he had no affiliation with the team in July. The man knows his stuff from just looking at the team from the outside. Now just imagine the things he’ll be able to identify once he has in house data available to him ie. film and analytics.
I’ll also bring up something else on one of his podcasts.
When asked what he thinks will be the next evolution in the game that people aren’t talking about right now in the mainstream, but he thinks has a lot of potential and teams would be wise to start looking at incorporating more of. His response: zone defense.
Went into a breakdown analysis of why it can be a really good tool when used properly to counteract a lot of what modern offenses do.
And what ended up heavily featured in the NBA bubble and was a huge reason for Miami’s Cinderella run? Their innovative use of zone defense. The other team using it? Boston. What did Miami really do to overcome them? A much more effective use and adjustment involving heavily the zone defense.
Whoever said SVG is some retread unable to adapt to the modern NBA is a fricking moron. The guy may have some neurosis, but the man knows fricking basketball.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 10/22/20 at 9:58 am to Bronc
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And what ended up heavily featured in the NBA bubble and was a huge reason for Miami’s Cinderella run? Their innovative use of zone defense. The other team using it? Boston. What did Miami really do to overcome them? A much more effective use and adjustment involving heavily the zone defense.
Excellent point and good post overall.
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