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re: A fact worth remembering: Those who don't believe in God argue against absolutes

Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:37 pm to
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Do you deny that this happens?

I don't understand why it can't be both. Where Christian dogma fails is creating this dichotomy -- you either believe in God, or believe in chemistry -- obviously, God created the chemical laws as well and has overseen the evolution of life from the very beginning.


Chemistry and evolution are verifiable via the scientific method. Their reality can be demonstrated. The same cannot be said for any deity ever proposed.

Moreover, evolution by natural selection appears decidedly undirected. Life is needlessly complex, wildly inefficient and exhibits innumerable deleterious consequences of random genetic mutation.
Posted by bfniii
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 12:02 am to
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Chemistry and evolution are verifiable via the scientific method. Their reality can be demonstrated. The same cannot be said for any deity ever proposed
and this is precisely the fatal epistemic mistake i was referring to

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Moreover, evolution by natural selection appears decidedly undirected
says you

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Life is needlessly complex
needlessly? according to what standard?

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deleterious consequences
deleterious based on what? how would you even know? just because something appears a certain way biologically does not mean it is needless or deleterious. and why must biology be "efficient?" who made that a rule?
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