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Console Wars: Sega vs. Nintendo (CBS All Access)

Posted on 9/27/20 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26357 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 9:41 pm
Big new doc that just dropped on CBS All Access.

It chronicles the Nintendo's fight against Sega in the late 80s and 90s. Seth Rogan is a producer.

It's looks to be well done and has some great music, too. You can tell CBS spent some money on this.
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 9:41 pm
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
23992 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 9:45 pm to
Did you watch the Netflix documentary series? Game Over, I think? It hits on the sets stuff 1 episode


Oops. My bad. The doc is called High Score.
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26357 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:11 pm to
I'm a sucker for any video game doc. Problem is most of them have a budget of about $100. I tried watching the Power Glove doc on Amazon, but couldn't even finish it. It was really badly and cheaply done.
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 10:12 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19201 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:09 am to
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Oops. My bad. The doc is called High Score
the 1st 2 episodes were meh for me I couldnt relate to the atari stuff but it picked up once they got to arcades and NES and whatnot
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:13 am to
I was upset that the Nintendo version of the first release of Mortal Kombat had brown “blood” (so dirt/mud instead?), and Sega didn’t change and kept it red.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 8:15 am
Posted by komodo
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:31 am to
Just finished the book, pretty good read.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:42 am to
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Mortal Kombat had brown “blood” (so dirt/mud instead?)


It was "sweat." Plus they also changed several of the fatalities, like Sub Zeros decapitation with spinal cord hanging down. It made the Sega version much more desirable.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:26 pm to
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Problem is most of them have a budget of about $100.
Both the Netflix series and the CBS All Access film are very high quality. Netflix has better and funnier animated B-Roll to go with the stories, but the CBS film is more professional (and of course, with the smaller focus) more in depth.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:33 pm to
Spoilers



Nintendo won
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:38 pm to
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and Sega didn’t change and kept it red.


You had to know the ABACABB code before it enabled the blood on sega.

And by the time MK2 came around that was fixed for SNES, which both still felt more true to the arcade
game experience than any Sega version of it.

If not for that code they wouldn't have sold any copies of that game, and they knew it. So they added it.
Posted by Saibot
Member since Oct 2019
33 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:04 pm to
No they didnt

They both lost
Posted by footwedge
Member since Feb 2010
798 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:25 pm to
I didn’t realize how much the PlayStation kicked Nintendo’s arse until the end of the doc.

I enjoyed both docs. I had the NES, then a genesis, then N64, then PS2. Then I pretty much stopped gaming. So both of These docs where right in my wheel house and very nostalgic. I guess the genesis advertising got me as an 11 year old, lol, as I remember my cousins all had super Nintendo’s.

My son is kinda getting to that age so will probably have the Nintendo switch before long.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41506 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:32 pm to
The six button Genesis controller was a game changer. It made MK far superior to the SNES version. It was perfect for that game.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26357 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:18 pm to
I forgot how genius Sega's marketing was.

I also didn't know just how much Sony destroyed Nintendo with the Playstation.

They never delved into just how Sony got the technology to beat the N64 so bad. They also didn't even mention the Dreamcast. By then, though, it was over for Sega. So I guess it didn't even matter.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41506 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:21 pm to
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They never delved into just how Sony got the technology to beat the N64 so bad.

I thought everyone knew this. It started out as a SNES CD upgrade like the Sega CD but then Nintendo and Sony couldn't get along so Sony did it on their own.

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38949 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:30 pm to
I wish there was a doc explaining why Coleco Vision collapsed.

I think it may have been just the "home video game recession" and why Atari collapsed. It took a few years for Nintendo to revive the boom.

We had the Atari 2600, Nintendo but Coleco Vision was by far the best console at the time, best graphics, problem is they didn't have enough games...so you could buy a port to plug into the system to play Atari games.

Also the controller was really bizarre. Looked like some futuristic portable phone.



But damn I loved that console over Atari and Nintendo and Sega.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:29 pm to
Snes had 6 button if you include the bumpers
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21414 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 1:36 am to
I hated Cleco Vision. I didn’t own one and always got my arse waxed in baseball because of those dumb controllers.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38949 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 1:40 am to
The controllers sucked.

But the graphics were as close as you could get to real Arcade. Dwarfed Atari.

I mean Zaxxon looked like the real version...while a ton of Atari games looked like crap compared to their Arcade versions.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 1:42 am to
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No they didnt

They both lost


The Super Nintendo Entertainment System sold 49.1 million units, about 18 million more than Sega Genesis.

The stock swap deal valued Sega between $1.45 billion and $1.8 billion.

..and sega had a head start and lower price.

Nintendo's net worth is estimated to be more than $85 billion. It is also the third most valuable company in Japan.

Id say Nintendo won the frickin battle between them and sega.
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