Technically he's not on trial for self defense, so self defense does NOT need to be proved.

The prosecution needs to prove it was 1st degree premeditated murder. If they can't do that beyond a reasonable doubt, he'll be found innocent, regardless of self defense.

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I think you need to step back, let your triggering subside and come back when you can have a clear, rational discussion....if possible

Here now, you've yet to disprove a single thing I've said in this thread.

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You do not have a right to lethal force

That's a pretty general statement. You absolutely do have a right to lethal force in certain instances.

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and you clearly haven’t bothered to read any of the Wisconsin laws because you keep invoking things like retreating that aren’t actually part of it.

Wisconsin allows juries to consider whether a defendant could have retreated in determining whether the use of deadly force was “necessary.

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and the prosecution in no way has to prove innocence of the deceased based on presumption of guilt.

They don't, they need to prove Kyle's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, like I've said.

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If Kyle can not do so,

Technically, Kyle doesn't need to do anything if the prosecution can't prove 1st degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt.

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Posted by Bronc

Member since Sep 2018

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Posted on 8/30/20 at 12:12 am to shel311

Jesus dude, take the night, you’re flailing.

No, he isn’t on trial for self defense, he’s being charged for murder. There are three dead bodies that attest to it. If the charges don’t change and he wants to convince a jury he didn’t commit murder he will have to convincingly check off all the boxes in Wisconsin’s self defense clauses and convince that jury. I see that as difficult at this point for the first murder. Much more so if he instigated the confrontation.

He is innocent til proven guilty in a court of law, but he has three bodies to his name, to classify that as justifiable homicide he will need to make a very strong case, especially in the first murder where the victim did not have a lethal object, may have been acting out of concern for others, and the murder happened in response to a split reaction that the video evidence we have so far does not show the victim posing a mortal threat, which also involved a double tap in the victims back, suggesting a vindictiveness to go with a earlier interview in the iight confessing he planned to threaten violence against protestors.

This post was edited on 8/30/20 at 12:14 am

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