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re: Don’t pay teachers to not teach!

Posted on 7/25/20 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Jesterea
Member since Nov 2011
1044 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 12:25 pm to
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The tax payers and administrators dont want to do the smaller class sizes.

I am on a governance council for a small community system. We were pitched going charter over a decade ago for more funds. The primary use of charter has been an exemption in the county on class sizes (we are larger than the state allows). As a small system, there are overhead costs that cant be spread out due to student enrollment numbers. Even with the charter exemption, we are one of the most expensive per pupil budgets.

Taxpayers have no interest in bringing more money to schools to knock down class sizes.


Oh, I know it would be more expensive. I'm just saying it would dramatically improve things.

People not wanting to shell out the cash necessary are entitled to their own feelings on the subject.

I'd say one way to save costs is to fricking start cutting waste in the budgets, but they'd rather cut teaching positions than anything else to make room.

fricking central offices man. If anyone wants to see what waste looks like in education, head over to South Foster Drive.
This post was edited on 7/25/20 at 12:26 pm
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8606 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 6:01 pm to
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fricking central offices man. If anyone wants to see what waste looks like in education, h


No doubt, but a ton of that waste is due to NCLB and the hoops admin have to jump through to comply with it and retain funding. So we wind up with a bazillion garbage data, instructional growth teacher, and curriculum related positions that are fairly worthless for actually improving student learning, and waste funds that could be used for classrooms and to hire more teachers to reduce class sizes.

Mind you, here in AZ a ton of the problem is also lack of spending on education in general(we've been in the 7000 thousand per student range for most of the last decade, either last or second to last every year, which is pathetic and over 4 thousand below the national average of 12k). In places that are above the national average waste is probably more of a larger portion of the problem.
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