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re: Hillary Clinton Alternate History Series ‘Rodham’ in Development at Hulu

Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:52 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:52 am to
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Again, whether anyone loves or hates her, comments like this just aren’t true and is clearly colored by emotion.


Hillary was an extremely successful and politically motivated, and talented, student long before she ever even met Clinton.

yeah sure i'm sure she would have been a major campaign manager or lobbyist or fixer but she would have never become a somebody

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Hell, they met while both attending fricking Yale Law School, so the idea that she would be some nobody that no one has ever heard of if she didn’t marry Clinton is just nonsense.

name all the famous people you know from YLS...and...GO

i'm not saying she wouldn't be successful or even somewhat powerful, but she's never be known like she was in the 90s and onward without Bill.

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It could be argued that Hillary marrying Clinton and leaving DC to follow him to Arkansas actually slowed her eventual rise. She took on a First Lady role instead of working her way up in DC at a time when women were being looked at as major potential candidates for the first time.

nobody truly likes HRC and she only got put up with b/c she was given a major face via Bill. she is a nasty, insufferable, and often evil person. this belief that HRC would become a major politician without Bill (or potentially a different partner who had real charm, charisma, and political potential) is silly

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It’s very possible she could have been in Congress during the time she was in Arkansas.

how?
Posted by LeClerc
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 8:28 am to
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and often evil person


Please expound on how Hillary Clinton has been evil.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 8:59 am to
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nobody truly likes HRC and she only got put up with b/c she was given a major face via Bill. she is a nasty, insufferable, and often evil person



Clearly you just truly dislike her and aren’t capable of an impartial take on her capabilities or her relevance in modern history.

Again, I’m not advocating for her as a candidate in any future, or even past, election. Just pointing out that she is a significant figure in our history and that she was obviously an intelligent, ambitious, and capable person as evidenced by things she did and achieved before she ever met Clinton.


Why people can’t step out of their political shoes to acknowledge simple facts like that just always strikes me as so strange. It’s no different than the claims that Trump is just some idiot Nazi by those that oppose his politics.

Marginalizing obviously otherwise intelligent people with many attributes that lead to their being successful just because they happen to sit across the aisle just makes it hard to take one seriously. And I’ve always seen you as an obviously smart guy so seeing intelligent people do that again just always confuses me.



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Hell, they met while both attending fricking Yale Law School, so the idea that she would be some nobody that no one has ever heard of if she didn’t marry Clinton is just nonsense.


name all the famous people you know from YLS...and...GO



Damn Slow again that’s just a silly take from a smart guy.

Obviously I wasn’t saying she’d be “famous” just because she went to Yale. I’m pointing out she is clearly intelligent and able to stand out and accomplish significant things on her own as evidenced by being able to work her way into one of the more prestigious institutions of higher learning on the planet.


But if you really want me to list a few, how about four current Supreme Court Justices and several others in the past, plus Gerald Ford, obviously Bill Clinton, and my personal favorite, Ben Stein



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It’s very possible she could have been in Congress during the time she was in Arkansas.


how?



Well she could have easily taken a page from Bill’s notebook and returned home after working in DC for a few more years. You do know she’s from Chicago right?

Her educational and political background and connections would have made her a perfect asset for the Chicago machine that Obama eventually became.


Or she could have just stayed in DC and set up shop in the Maryland burbs and been elected through that Democratic machine and risen from there.


She was clearly on a political track, and the idea that she would have made her own way into elected office is far from silly.


In fact, all the things you find so revolting about her could have been molded by being stuck in a loveless marriage with a man that cheated on her constantly and being forced to play the happy and dedicated wife to further his political career while you watch your own ambitions fade into the past.

Who knows what she was like before all of that and how she would have evolved without that baggage??

That’s what the show is going to try to explore and I personally find it pretty interesting.


I haven’t read whatever this is based on, but I see from quotes in this thread that her and Bill will actually become rivals. That’s another interesting angle. Like not only how she is different but how Bill changes as well. Maybe he isn’t as liberal after returning to a more conservative Arkansas without her and they end up running against each other as R and D. That’s a pretty cool idea imo.


I also think it’s interesting that Chelsea will be essentially written out of existence. I think that could actually be a compelling angle, although I doubt they’ll deal with meta issues like that. Like if Rodham chooses a different path other than being a wife and mother does she gain something personally while losing another part of herself.

Choice, and the consequences of choices.


That would be really interesting imo, but it will all depend on how truly challenging of a show they want to make. Or will this just be a fluffy piece of fan fiction.
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 9:17 am
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:57 am to
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i'm not saying she wouldn't be successful or even somewhat powerful, but she's never be known like she was in the 90s and onward without Bill.



Honestly, I think the big thing is that we would simply never know if she and Bill had not gotten together because they were so young when they did so. Neither of them had THAT much of a career prior to being together because they've been together since before they got their degrees.
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