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re: Statue of Jesus Christ decapitated, knocked off pedestal outside SW Miami-Dade church

Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:24 pm to
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"any graven image in heaven above, or on the earth, or beneath the earth". It would be better not to have idols in the church.




you are very ignorant and uninformed and interpret scripture wrong. you guys take it all out of context. it means you are not to worshsip any graven images of false GODs like the pagans did.

The bible actually tells man to make a graven image.

here educate yourself.


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In Numbers, 21:8-9, God commandsMoses to make a graven image: “And the Lord said to Moses, ‘Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and every one who is bitten, when he sees it, shall live.’ So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live.”



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So, not only are graven images not forbidden to be made, but God Himself commands the making of one! And, this graven image is used, by God, in a religious context, to heal those who had been bitten by serpents after they had grumbled against God. And, in the New Testament, this graven image is even seen as an Old Testament type of Christ: “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him may have eternal life,” (John 3:14-15). The graven image of the serpent had a religious purpose!



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There are a number of other places in Scripture where God commands the making of graven images, and it is always within a religious context. In Exodus 25:18-19, God commands the making of the two cherubim of gold that are on either side of the mercy seat that sits atop the Ark of the Covenant.




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This whole passage from Exodus 20 is all about the fact that there is one God we should worship. It begins with, “I am the Lord your God,” and ends with “I the Lord your God am (a jealous God).” The operative word is “I.” One. There is one God that the Israelites are to worship. Furthermore, the words that seem, to Protestants, to prohibit the making of a graven image or of any likeness of anything in heaven or on earth are proceeded by: “You shall have no other gods before Me,” and they are followed by: “…you shall not bow down to them or serve them.” Which means, given the context, this is not an absolute prohibition upon the Israelites against the making of graven images or any likeness of things in heaven or on earth, rather they are being prohibited from making such images and then turning around and worshipping them.




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Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:23 pm to
First of all, ex 20:4 does not mention worship of idols, it says "You shall not make any image", meaning God interprets those to be offensive, not me.

Secondly all of your examples were a DIRECT command from God to a specific individual for a specific purpose and time, not for us to make whatever we want for any purpose we want. God wasn't giving us a mandate or blueprint for how to make graven images, but rather they were given to illustrate the purpose and goal of the life of Jesus. They could later be used to measure the life of Christ against those illustrations to prove He was who He said He was!

Show me your mandate from the Most High to make any graven image.

Catholics are always the most offended when you show them scripture that is in direct opposition to their doctrines. "Don't take away my statues, not my hollow, empty, porcelain statues!" I look at it this way, if statues were okay, I've lost very little if I go through life without one, for a statue does not heal, speak, love, or edify in any way. However, if I am correct, then what you support is a sin.
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 10:25 pm
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