re: I have a quiet envy of religious people

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You can walk this back as far as you want and the deists will always try and end the journey at 'God'. But then I would ask, what created God? What created the creator of God? Etc. Can there be an endpoint? Logic dictates that there can't.

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I believe the argument is pretty sound that there must be a beginning or a first cause.

In logic, you can't have an infinite regress: you would not be able to affirm the conclusion because the premise is never proved as each premise relies on an infinite number of contingent premises, meaning that the conclusion cannot be proven or justified.

Likewise, if there is an effect, it must have a cause. This, too, will result in an infinite regress unless you have an uncaused cause as the first cause of the chain. The question is whether or not God is a cause or an effect. I'd say He is an uncaused cause, not a caused effect, and therefore does not need to have a cause.