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re: The H1-B visa ban is dumb.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:58 pm to FieldEngineer
Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:58 pm to FieldEngineer
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I don't have a specific problem with outsourcing, though I'm not a fan of it. If enough companies do that, it will increase the cost of the service in India and similar countries (already has, I think).
I've not seen this....and the company I work for just hired one at a fraction of the cost of a regular employee
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There is also a noticeable different in average quality of service in those offshoring scenarios too.
This is changing because it is getting so competitive at least in some AOEs.
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It's not the same at all.
How so. The (let's call them a contractor for ease of use) contractor sits in the organization under a manager that also contains other regular employees. He gets his assignments the same way (certainly now with COVID) and it evaluated based on the same criteria.
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They also consume services which cost tax dollars to provide.
Right but as much tax dollars as they consume the company pays that much in benefits and other costs that go back into the general economy. This is not the case on a contractor.
The bottom line here (and a lot of companies are starting to see it I think) the contingent worker route is the real route to go to save money over regular employees.
Disney replaced a lot of their employees with offshore resources in IT not that long ago.....same story for Amedisys, a big home health firm, in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 4:15 pm to LSU316
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I've not seen this....and the company I work for just hired one at a fraction of the cost of a regular employee
Could be different for me. I'm not a developer.
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How so. The (let's call them a contractor for ease of use) contractor sits in the organization under a manager that also contains other regular employees. He gets his assignments the same way (certainly now with COVID) and it evaluated based on the same criteria.
COVID closures certainly leveled the playing field a bit, even if only temporarily.
The first major difference in that type of worker is the location. That makes networking and team building infinitely more difficult.
The next big one is time zone. Scheduling calls and meetings and such is difficult unless the person in India works US hours. (Sometimes it can be advantageous for them to be working while the US folks are sleeping though.)
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Right but as much tax dollars as they consume the company pays that much in benefits and other costs that go back into the general economy. This is not the case on a contractor.
The bottom line here (and a lot of companies are starting to see it I think) the contingent worker route is the real route to go to save money over regular employees.
Disney replaced a lot of their employees with offshore resources in IT not that long ago.....same story for Amedisys, a big home health firm, in Baton Rouge.
Edited: Probably shouldn't post specific stuff.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 4:17 pm
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