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re: Breakdown of Mississippi's run game vs LSU
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:06 pm to Mithridates6
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:06 pm to Mithridates6
Do you recall what Chavis did with Tyrann Mathieu? That role Mathieu played was so damn aggressive. Unfortunately Chavis didn't get much credit for putting Mathieu in the position to be such an attacking playmaker.
And then you give Chavis a subtle knock on...talent?? C'mon...
And then you give Chavis a subtle knock on...talent?? C'mon...
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:12 pm to RB10
So you want to discount actual results based on your speculation?
I just don't value your speculation, so the actual results mean more to me.
I just don't value your speculation, so the actual results mean more to me.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:13 pm to inadaze
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Do you recall what Chavis did with Tyrann Mathieu? That role Mathieu played was so damn aggressive. Unfortunately Chavis didn't get much credit for putting Mathieu in the position to be such an attacking playmaker.
And then you give Chavis a subtle knock on...talent?? C'mon...
The game has passed Chavis by. That much is evident by his time at Texas A&M and Arkansas.
Pelini has most likely adjusted or Orgeron wouldn't have hired him. Time will tell.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:17 pm to inadaze
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So you want to discount actual results based on your speculation?
I'm not discounting anything. Pelini was very good as a DC at LSU, 15 years ago.
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I just don't value your speculation, so the actual results mean more to me.
I don't care. Speculation of a coach who hasn't been a DC for 15 years is warranted.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:27 pm to RB10
The response from recruits has been pretty positive too, I just wonder about how Shelvin and Ika are going to adapt, I'm sure Bo will be flexible though
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:38 pm to RB10
The results that I've posted speak for themselves.
Your speculation is meaningless to me without some real analysis to go with it. Stating the obvious, like Pelini hasn't been DC since his time with LSU, is not analysis.
Your speculation is meaningless to me without some real analysis to go with it. Stating the obvious, like Pelini hasn't been DC since his time with LSU, is not analysis.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:16 am to inadaze
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The results that I've posted speak for themselves.
The results from 2005-2007? Ok.
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Your speculation is meaningless to me without some real analysis to go with it. Stating the obvious, like Pelini hasn't been DC since his time with LSU, is not analysis.
"Real analysis" like spewing stats from 2005 like they're somehow relevant? How about using YPG like it's somehow the end-all of the discussion?
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 12:19 am
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:22 am to Mithridates6
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The response from recruits has been pretty positive too, I just wonder about how Shelvin and Ika are going to adapt, I'm sure Bo will be flexible though
I believe Pelini will be fine. He's going to be a solid replacement for Aranda. I'm just not naive enough to believe that his defenses from 2005-2007 have anything to do with it.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:18 am to Mithridates6
Some "aggressive" numbers that might give you some optimism:
With Aranda, the LSU D averaged 37.6 sacks per year. More than with Chavis, but for context, the Defenses with Chavis had less opportunities. Opponents averaged 428 pass attempts during years with Aranda. 401.5 during years with Chavis.
With Pelini, the LSU D averaged 39.8 sacks per year while opponents averaged 415.3 pass attempts. So more sacks even with less opportunities in comparison to years with Aranda.
With Aranda, the LSU D averaged 37.6 sacks per year. More than with Chavis, but for context, the Defenses with Chavis had less opportunities. Opponents averaged 428 pass attempts during years with Aranda. 401.5 during years with Chavis.
With Pelini, the LSU D averaged 39.8 sacks per year while opponents averaged 415.3 pass attempts. So more sacks even with less opportunities in comparison to years with Aranda.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:56 am to RB10
You keep trying to exaggerate the years, but it's just silly.
The numbers from Pelini's time with LSU is all we really have to go on. I didn't speculate on anything as you did, so there was no analysis needed to support speculation. Frankly, I don't know what to make of his time with Youngstown State. Things got really rough with Nebraska, but the results look good in retrospect. I really think Pelini has more of a DC than HC personality.
By the way, on Chavis, I think some people forget how well the LSU D played against the spread Texas A&M was running with Johnny Manziel. You start getting into his time with other teams, you have to contextualize that. But the Defenses were very good while he was with LSU, and he proved during that time he was effective in stopping spread attacks.
Do you not think YPG Allowed is a good criterion to judge a D?
The numbers from Pelini's time with LSU is all we really have to go on. I didn't speculate on anything as you did, so there was no analysis needed to support speculation. Frankly, I don't know what to make of his time with Youngstown State. Things got really rough with Nebraska, but the results look good in retrospect. I really think Pelini has more of a DC than HC personality.
By the way, on Chavis, I think some people forget how well the LSU D played against the spread Texas A&M was running with Johnny Manziel. You start getting into his time with other teams, you have to contextualize that. But the Defenses were very good while he was with LSU, and he proved during that time he was effective in stopping spread attacks.
Do you not think YPG Allowed is a good criterion to judge a D?
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:35 pm to arcalades
Not hard to do....Aranda got punked like most of the time.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:40 pm to Mithridates6
It’s Ole Miss. not Mississippi or UM. Call them what they are.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:28 am to SOL
Joe burrow can thank the defense for the heisman. the ole Miss game and before the defense as a whole was not up to LSU standards.Joe should have probably been out by the 4th qtr but the defense was never able to shut other teams down really until after ole Miss game.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 5:33 am
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