re: We Turned Our Backs on God

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Your insistence on this frame of mind is one of the most outlandish things you post on here on this topic.

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I find that to be surprising

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Logic and reason did not exist before Christianity or before the Biblical texts were authored? Massive swaths of the planet have never proscribed to Christianity, the Bible, or any concept of the Abrahamic god, or any of his purported teachings whatsoever.

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You're misunderstanding. I didn't say that logic and reason only make sense to Christians or only to people with access to the Bible. I said that they only make sense within a Christian/Biblical worldview. Without that underpinning (the truths revealed by God through His word), there is no rational basis for the existence of such universal, invariant, and logically necessary things.

What I'm saying is that logic and reason require the existence of the Biblical God. Denying God while using reason would be like denying air exists while breathing it in to live.

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Are you saying that logic and reason are non-existent in the ethos of those societies? Or just that those people simply aren't educated enough and don't know why they do what they do?

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I'm saying people either don't know or understand the necessity of God for reason or they reject it outright.

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The mindset that nothing logical, foundational, or reasonably supportable can exist without the specific mindset that you adhere to is next quite an egocentric way of viewing the world.

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No, I'm saying that the worldview provided by the Bible in terms of the characteristics and nature of God in relation to the universe is a necessary precondition for reason to be intelligible. I'm not saying that people have to understand the Bible to use reason, but that they need the Biblical God to exist in order to make sense of it from an axiomatic level.

In essence, in order to use reason, you have to borrow from a biblical worldview. Or as Cornelius Van Til used to put it, those who reject God have to sit in His lap in order to slap His face.