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A theory on "systemic racism" within police forces

Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:50 pm
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4561 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:50 pm
What if, in the 60s, after passage of the CRA, police actually did start behaving themselves better? Then comes the 70s. by that time, other than still having a few older racist cops on the forces, you also had thousands of AA kids who had grown up in households with a mantra of "as for me and my family, we will hate the police".. and that attitude from parents was probably justified back then. These kids would later pass this same attitude down to their kids in the 80s and 90s. And further down the generations.

So now, beginning in the 60s, as police are starting to indeed behave better (in theory), many trends for African Americans simultaneously begin to turn for the worst. Black crime and financial situations are now Trending for the worst, instead of For the better as they had been for decades leading up to the 60s. These kids who are now older, are beginning to "see" what their parents had been talking about.

They have the CRA behind them. Their attitudes change. But they are getting poorer. Their crime rates are going up. Cops are still harassing them, but this time it was more often than not for good reason (unlike their parents). But in their minds it was their parents words playing out in front of them.

I don't feel I've stated all this as eloquently as I could have, but basically, at the same time cops began to try and behave themselves, is precisely the same time the "war on poverty" effects took hold, and broke the AA family.

Thoughts? Or better ways of saying this?
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:54 pm to
Poor impulse control and poor future-time orientation is driving all of this.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19325 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:56 pm to
It’s all a lie. A hoax, another leftist democratic BS story.

Nothing, repeat nothing of the systematic racism nonsense is reality.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42236 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

Nothing, repeat nothing of the systematic racism nonsense is reality.


I am not so sure. Here is why...

Weed becomes schedule 1 (pure horse shite)

Dads go to jail (dealers...not users)

The Absent Dad Disease (ADD) hits

Daddy government intervenes

Three strikes is introduced

More dads gone

Discipline goes to shite (u can’t be what you can’t c)

Students with special needs qualify for SS $$

“Behavior disorders” are labeled as SPED

Act like an a-hole and get paid SS $$

Schools are forbidden to discipline SPED

Students treat teachers etc. like shite

They mistakenly think that applies to cops

Conflict occurs and police overreach happens

Some cops cross the line

Social media and MSM highlight the issue

Here we are...complete with riots.


On a final note...
I would love to know how many of the 9 unarmed people murdered by bad cops were labeled as SPED. My guess is 2/3 minimum.

ETA - SS $$ = Social Security disability $$$
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 8:11 pm
Posted by westide
Bamala
Member since Sep 2014
2882 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:15 pm to
So, the actions of one idiot policeman is evidence of systemic racism. The fact that 500 white people were killed by blacks last year is evidence that white people need to get off their azzes and start White lives Matter.
Posted by DriverDrew
Member since Jun 2020
41 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:16 pm to
I'm struggling to find the systematic racism and white privilege here



Surely the feminist movement is on the case right?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170703 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:18 pm to
You can trace almost everything back to the war on drugs and the crack epidemic IMO

The CIA didn't do us any favors
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4561 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:22 pm to
Again, I don't feel i was as eloquent as I could have been. I am not at all suggesting that there is actual systemic racism anywhere. But rather trying to state the reasons why that perception is there.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170703 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

I'm struggling to find the systematic racism and white privilege here


I find it almost impossible to believe that there are no white on black rapes
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4561 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:26 pm to
Actually, I change my mind of my last comment. There really is SOMETHING that's been happening for decades.

I do believe that blacks are sentenced more harshly for similar crimes. But I do not know the magnitude.

I do believe that blacks probably tend to be treated more harshly during things like routine traffic stops. How much of that is their own doing? Probably a significant amount if I had to guess, but I really don't know.

I do believe that blacks are watched with a more suspicious eye from business owners and employees, and whatnot.

These things can be construed as systemic racism. But two of those have nothing to do with police brutality.
Posted by DriverDrew
Member since Jun 2020
41 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:28 pm to
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find it almost impossible to believe that there are no white on black rapes


That was one year I believe but it's common knowledge that W on B rapes are always essentially zero. Like "0-5" with a margin of error of 5
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19325 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

quote:
I'm struggling to find the systematic racism and white privilege here

I find it almost impossible to believe that there are no white on black rapes



Let’s say their were 1000. Does it change the overwhelming fact of the origin of the majority of this country’s violent crime?
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19325 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

I do believe that blacks are sentenced more harshly for similar crimes. But I do not know the magnitude.


If you look at the origin of this incident, it mostly lies with the criminal past of the convicted of the same crime. The harsher sentence typically follows the one with the criminal history and not the race of the criminal. All rules have exceptions but this is part of the equation.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4561 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:35 pm to
I agree past history is a part of it. And those can be explained away. And they are justified, in my opinion.

But it's nearly indisputable that harsher sentences are given to blacks generally speaking.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42236 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

I do believe that blacks are sentenced more harshly for similar crimes. But I do not know the magnitude. I do believe that blacks probably tend to be treated more harshly during things like routine traffic stops. How much of that is their own doing? Probably a significant amount if I had to guess, but I really don't know. I do believe that blacks are watched with a more suspicious eye from business owners and employees, and whatnot. These things can be construed as systemic racism


I agree
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 8:38 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42236 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:38 pm to
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The harsher sentence typically follows the one with the criminal history and not the race of the criminal. All rules have exceptions but this is part of the equation.


I agree with this as well
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