re: From the OT - police/civilian violent interaction

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The application of violence is never pretty. It's...well, violent. If he had arm barred her and slammed her to the ground you'd have the same people complaining. By the book or not, effective violence always looks bad, especially when 1 person takes the brunt of it.

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Absolutely correct

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For example, IF it turns out that what the kneeler cop did was by the book, do you think it will change anybody's mind?

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Not mine because the bottom line is, guy was saying he was in physical distress and they literally didn't even check him.

When you have someone under your control, you become responsible for their well being. So, frankly, I don't care if the dude choked on a corn dog. Since you're pinning him and he can't help himself, you become responsible for helping him.