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re: Jay Glazer article about taysom

Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:08 am to
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:08 am to
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He inserted Teddy last year when it mattered and went 5-0. Them signed Jameis for this season for the same reasons.


You’re not being intellectually honest here, Les. You know that Teddy had to play last year and Jameis will have to this year (if God forbid Brees goes down again) because Taysom is such a huge part of the team in his multiple other roles. And with Cook’s slow start and Ginn being pretty much done, Taysom had to be available to be used in non-QB offensive snaps.

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Good, 31 year old 1st time starting QBs do not exist. Like ever. In the history of football.


Maybe not. But Kurt Warner didn’t play an NFL snap until he was 27, and took a career 4-11 for 39 yards into his 1st career start at 28-years-old. And he’d have been even older if Trent Green hadn’t torn his ACL in the preseason. And since they had just signed Green that offseason, who knows how long it would have taken Warner to become a QB1 if Green hadn’t gone down.

Now, 28 isn’t 31 and Taysom isn’t Kurt Warner, but it’s not as crazy as you make it sound. And Warner was the just the 1st guy I thought of.

Rich Gannon was the 2nd. Pretty mediocre, kind of a journeyman after his stint with the Vikings. Began his career as 3rd-strong behind Wade Wilson and Tommy Kramer. Started 12 games at 25-years-old when Wilson went down with a thumb injury. The next season, demoted back to 3rd string behind a healthy Wilson and Sean fricking Salisbury. Finally won the starting job for the 1st time in 1992 (27 years old), but despite the Vikings being 8-3 and leading the NFC Central, he was benched for Salisbury in week 12.

The next year, at 28, Gannon goes to the Redskins where he is once again relegated to 3rd string behind Mark Rypien and Cary Conklin. He wound up starting 4 games that year, going 1-3 on 74-for-125 passing (59.2 percent) for 704 yards with three touchdowns and seven interceptions.

Missed his entire 29-year-old season with an injury, spent his 30 and 31-year-old seasons with the Chiefs backing up Steve Bono. Began his 32-year-old season backing up Elvis Grbac and wound up splitting time with him that season and the next.

Then, all of a sudden, at 34, he signs with the Raiders and goes to 4 straight Pro Bowls, a Super Bowl, and was the NFL MVP at 37.

Just to be clear, I’m not convinced Taysom is the future QB1 here or if he is, if he’ll be any good. But you have to concede he is a very unique case. And he could wind up surprising us all.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:26 am to
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because Taysom is such a huge part of the team in his multiple other roles


Justify and explain this to me:

How is Taysom more valuable touching the ball 2.8x a game as a gadget player than he is touching the ball every play as a QB?

Please, someone. If he a DUDE.... If he is the next dude....you are itching to put him in the game, aren't you?

That is such a bullshite narrative that makes zero sense. Touching the ball a few times a game does not make him "a huge part of the team". HE touched the ball 2.8x per game! He had 46 touches on offense all year. 46!!!!!!



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Now, 28 isn’t 31 and Taysom isn’t Kurt Warner


27 is not 31. yep


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Rich Gannon was the 2nd.



Rich Gannon started his first game at 24.284 years old



The age thing I am perpetuating is about recognizing talent. Whether you are good or not at the age is not as important. It's about recognizing the talent, giving the player a shot because you truly believe he can win games as a QB. And they had the shot with Taysom last year, and they had that shot again to make him QB2 for 2020 but they chose not to.

His clock is ticking. The more they put it off, the easier it is to see that they really dont believe in him. The more they put it off, the less likely it is that he is developed into a starting NFL QB. I dont hate the player, but those are just the cold hard facts. History does not lie. Not with this type of sample size.
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