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re: Projected 2020-2021 basketball lineup

Posted on 5/15/20 at 9:37 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 9:37 am to
If Leblanc cant go immediately, and if Watford goes pro....


Days cant stay in the game with his fouling.


I know Wade is high on the team but that looks a lot like last years squad with no real big men.


Smart
Thomas
Manning
Days
Ezrwiro or Gray
Posted by S
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 9:42 am to
Announce shooters
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 9:42 am to
If coach k is worried NCAA ought to be to
About the state of college hoops
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 9:43 am to
theres definitely more firepower there

Wade will say every will shoot 40% from 3
Posted by S
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 9:58 am to
Every summer

Think last year was Hyatt. If Smart can just shoot a little better at home. His away numbers weren’t terrible
Posted by southdowns84
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:02 am to
quote:


Wade will say every will shoot 40% from 3


Posted by iamandykeim
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:05 am to
I thought Leblanc transferred early enough that he'd be immediately eligible for next year? If not, hard to imagine he doesn't get a waiver.

I completely forgot we still have Charles Manning and Aundre Hyatt. they'll be very nice to have off the bench - especially Manning with his athleticism.

Cam Thomas is going to be that dude.
Posted by smilelsu
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:07 am to
Who will be our coach?
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Smart
Thomas
Manning
Days
Ezrwiro or Gray


No scoring outside of Thomas

Smart is inconsistent as a scorer
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:13 am to
Smart improved in the SEC last year, but I worry if he thinks he is the top dog. He needs to be reigned in, and not as much freelancing.

But he shot 44fg 38 3pt in conference games last season. That is perfectly suitable as is, if he builds on it he will be all conference


Manning can score

Days just needs to shoot better, which he is capable of
Posted by purplengold1
Illinois
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:16 am to
Manning when healthy was a huge boost last year. Probably their best defender as well.
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:26 am to
quote:

I know Wade is high on the team but that looks a lot like last years squad with no real big men.


That squad was still one of the best offensive teams in the country. And despite what everyone wants to believe, the lack of a "rim protector" wasn't the reason they were terrible on defense. It's that they didn't guard anyone, anywhere on the court...which has been the ONE constant negative in Wade's tenure.

LSU is going to have to change their overall approach on the defensive end. If they do, they can still be a very good team even without a true "big man". Wade has proven he can compete for SEC titles. However, I do think that Watford could be a bit of a linchpin in determining whether this team is really good or a true championship level team. If Watford isn't there it will be the first time a Wade-led LSU team doesn't appear to have a productive inside scorer (Reath, Reid, Watford in previous years)
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:45 am to
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And despite what everyone wants to believe, the lack of a "rim protector" wasn't the reason they were terrible on defense. It's that they didn't guard anyone, anywhere on the court...which has been the ONE constant negative in Wade's tenure.


A rim protector would have covered up some of the other defensive issues, but you're right, it certainly wasn't the only thing missing.

No idea how a team as long and athletic as 2019-2020 LSU struggled to defend the 3 point line AND allowed consistent dribble penetration.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:51 am to
quote:

That squad was still one of the best offensive teams in the country. And despite what everyone wants to believe, the lack of a "rim protector" wasn't the reason they were terrible on defense.



Nothing is ever the sole reason in a team game like that, but it certainly had a trickle down affect. Having no guard depth also hurt.


quote:

That squad was still one of the best offensive teams in the country.



Saved by getting to the FT line.

If Watford leaves you are losing your top 4 foul shooters sorted by attempts. So that changes things.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Saved by getting to the FT line.



We were 102nd in the country in FTA/FGA last year.

We were 43rd in the country in effective FG%, 15th in offensive rebounding %, 17th in 2 point %.

So yeah, while we were good at the line at 21st in the country in % there, it's not like we got there at a stupid high rate. They were among the best because we rebounded a bunch a high percentage of misses and shot extremely well inside the arc.
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 11:08 am
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Saved by getting to the FT line.
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 11:08 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:14 am to
LSU was 21st in the nation in free throws made.

18th in FT %.


are we acting like that isn't good?


With the amount of close games that they played, FT shooting certainly was the difference in many of them.
Posted by cajunguy
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:15 am to
Did O' Neil play at all this past season? And why wouldn't he get a waver if did not play or hardly play
Posted by 225Tyga
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:16 am to
Wheres Mac McClung?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
69098 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:37 am to
quote:

LSU was 21st in the nation in free throws made.


Yet still not top 100 in FTA/FGA, which is what we're talking about here, efficiency metrics, not raw metrics. The impact on the offense of a team there and a team 100 spots lower is like 2-3 points per game.

quote:

18th in FT %.


are we acting like that isn't good?


I already lined out how we shot well from the FT line, did you miss that?

quote:

With the amount of close games that they played, FT shooting certainly was the difference in many of them.



We're talking about how good the offense is. While certainly it's nice to shoot very well from the FT line, it's much much much nicer to be one of the top 2 point shooting teams in the country, not to mention rebound your own misses at a very high rate. 2 point shooting specifically is a much bigger factor than free throw shooting.

FT shooting certainly was a part of it, but not the "main" part like you were trying to sell. We shot almost 55% from 2 and over 54% of our scoring came from 2. By comparison only 20.5% of our scoring came from the FT line, which was 99th in the country. So I'll let you decide what was a much bigger impact.
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 11:44 am
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