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So forget all the pillars of fire, mana from heaven, rivers of blood, talking burning bushes, God needed blood sacrifices to get their attention?

Have you read these message boards and other ones? We are a stubborn, thickheaded people.

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I get the gravity of the offering, but why tie it to blood sacrifices alone? Let's say I chose to burn all my farm equipment instead, and that sacrifice was valued at more than my most prized cow, would that also work? Does that not show how serious I am about honoring God and trying to atone for my transgressions? What about giving the value of my most prize cow, or even more, to a poor family in need?

What I'm trying to get at is that the blood sacrifice thing seems quite arbitrary. Sure you can justify it by saying it checks boxes A, B, and C. But so do a lot of other actions, yet those actions don't, at least according to my understanding of the Bible, grant you atonement.

We have the example in the bible where Abel's animal's sacrifice was praised by God by Cain's sacrifice of harvest foods was rejected by God. Here, is a writeup of how they extrapolated things based on this: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/why-didnt-god-respect-cains-offering/

The giving of a cow to a poor family wouldn't be an atonement. That would be more like a way of trying to bribe your way into heaven. Like if you got charged with a ticket and had to a pay a fine, you couldn't say but I gave money to charity so could you please let me out of this ticket. Your good work wouldn't absolve you of your wrong doing. You'd still need to pay the fine.

The bigger issue in your argument here seems to be that you don't like how God does things. It is the if I was in charge, I would do it differently line of thinking. Well, that is fine but it isn't up to you or us. You and I are not God and as I said to the other poster, we aren't in a comparable position to even judge his actions.

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Posted by Azkiger

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Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:10 pm to TCUFan

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Have you read these message boards and other ones? We are a stubborn, thickheaded people.

Even still, seeing rivers of blood seems to be more of an attention grabber than simply following the tradition of blood sacrifices. There's nothing immediately miraculous about burning an animal. In fact, I could buy a cow, kill it, and burn it this week (might be breaking a law but it's within my power to do so). Turning a river into blood? Not so much.

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you couldn't say but I gave money to charity so could you please let me out of this ticket. Your good work wouldn't absolve you of your wrong doing. You'd still need to pay the fine.

And if our legal system allowed for you to pay your fine by donating it to charity it would prove that God's decision to base salvation on blood sacrifices is arbitrary? I doubt you'd make that allowance, so why should I allow this to rest on how an imperfect human legal system happens to operate?

Whether your giving a cow to God via sacrifice or to a poor family, you're losing something very valuable to you. That was the point you mentioned earlier right? That having to sacrifice a prized animal was a tough thing to do for someone living in that sort of setting.

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The bigger issue in your argument here seems to be that you don't like how God does things.

With respect to this practice I haven't given an opinion. The issue actually occurred to me while watching Narnia, the lion was talking to the witch about compensation for something the little girl did (I forget what, but it represented sin) and she demanded blood. The lion growled at the witch and said that he was there when the laws were written and he didn't need to be reminded of them, or something to that effect. While it's a kids movie, it did totally gloss over why those were "the laws" (or the way things were).

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You and I are not God and as I said to the other poster, we aren't in a comparable position to even judge his actions.

And yet Christians allow all sorts of praise and worship songs where they declare how great, moral, wonderful, perfect God is.

That sort of thing is allowed, so long as it's completely positive.

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