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re: God Has A Plan For Your Life
Posted on 5/7/20 at 12:35 pm to Azkiger
Posted on 5/7/20 at 12:35 pm to Azkiger
quote:There's a distinction between the revealed will of God and the secret will of God known as His divine decree. God has revealed His desires and His commands to us through special revelation (the Bible), yet God's eternal plan and decree is something that we don't know all about. We don't know why He has determined that one person live to 80 while another die in the womb. We don't know why He saves one house yet not another in a storm. We don't know why He justifies one member of a household by saving faith in His son and not another. Likewise we don't know His specific purpose(s) in allowing the evil of abortion to take place.quote:And the usual Christian response only makes things worse.
Apparently, God's plan must be for millions of babies to get aborted every year.
"But the babies go to Heaven!"
What we do know is that God is holy. We know that He has a purpose for everything He does and allows to be done. We know that all things are done ultimately for His glory. We know all humans are sinful (conceived with a sinful nature) and guilty before God. We know that God is just and must punish sin. These things together allow for us to understand why He can remain holy and allow for sin and evil to exist for a time, knowing that all of it will be judged in His time.
God allows sin to exist but not without judging it. He will judge all sin, either in the sinner or in Christ's atoning work on the cross through faith in that sacrifice. No one is saved apart from Christ, even unborn children. If God so chooses to save a child murdered through abortion, it is His right to do so, and He would do so by imparting saving grace to the child through His Spirit according to His plan of election.
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 12:42 pm to FooManChoo
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There's a distinction between the revealed will of God and the secret will of God known as His divine decree. God has revealed His desires and His commands to us through special revelation (the Bible), yet God's eternal plan and decree is something that we don't know all about. We don't know why He has determined that one person live to 80 while another die in the womb. We don't know why He saves one house yet not another in a storm. We don't know why He justifies one member of a household by saving faith in His son and not another. Likewise we don't know His specific purpose(s) in allowing the evil of abortion to take place.
So we dont know Gods true plan yet we are just supposed to believe he has the best intentions for us in our next life? The same god that allows suffering now PROMISES you he wont allow it next time. all you have to do is worship him! He promises!
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What we do know is that God is holy
How do you know that? because so far its worship me or else.
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We know that all things are done ultimately for His glory.
oh well there you go. His glory... why does he need such great glory? Why does he need us to glorify him? can hhe not glorify himself enough?
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God allows sin to exist but not without judging it. He will judge all sin, either in the sinner or in Christ's atoning work on the cross through faith in that sacrifice. No one is saved apart from Christ, even unborn children. If God so chooses to save a child murdered through abortion, it is His right to do so, and He would do so by imparting saving grace to the child through His Spirit according to His plan of election.
So he is picking winners and losers and the losers cant complain or question his authority?
again sounds like a game i dont want to play.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 12:49 pm to FooManChoo
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yet God's eternal plan and decree is something that we don't know all about.
Well isn't that convenient?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 2:53 pm to FooManChoo
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We don't know why He has determined that one person live to 80 while another die in the womb.
But we do know that setting someone on a path where they literally cannot fail no matter what (aborted child) and having someone live to be 80 (what percent of the human population that's ever lived will make it to heaven? Much less than half) are placing people on two totally different playing fields.
How is that compatible with being perfectly just?
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What we do know is that God is holy. We know that He has a purpose for everything He does and allows to be done. We know that all things are done ultimately for His glory. We know all humans are sinful (conceived with a sinful nature) and guilty before God. We know that God is just and must punish sin. These things together allow for us to understand why He can remain holy and allow for sin and evil to exist for a time, knowing that all of it will be judged in His time."
No, we don't know any of that. All we can do is surmise what we can from the evidence we have. And a perfectly just being setting up a scenario where some people cannot fail, and others have a great chance of failure, isn't just.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 3:11 pm
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