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re: 4-2-5 vs 3-4 and Stopping the Spread

Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by southdowns84
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:56 pm to
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IDK its a pretty interesting argument



It's a very interesting argument. I think in a vacuum I'd prefer the 3-4, but at a place like LSU I lean more towards the 4-2-5 based on the type of athletes we recruit.

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People forget that we had a very good defense last year, because the last two games just blow out the statistics.


I think we really under-performed based on the talent we had on defense. We just had five players selected in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Stingley will probably be a top five pick. Shelvin and Stevens will likely be drafted in the first few rounds as well.

I don't think it'd be easy to find examples of other defenses with that much talent that finished where we did statistically.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:10 pm to
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I think we really under-performed based on the talent we had on defense.


Coming into the year we had to patch a group of safeties together and figure out who was going to play LB. The DL was pretty consistent with the exception of the simultaneous injuries of Lawrence and Logan.

Outside of Delpit, it took half the year to get the safety position ironed out.

As for LB, Queen was not even starting for the first 3 games or so and Divinity who was a penciled in starter after last season missed 9 games due to suspension.

If you track the performance of the defense from start to finish of the season it grew every week and actually was best when it was needed in the playoffs. Several guys in the LB and DB group had to learn and gain experience this season. We have to remember that with the evolution of the three yr player you have to rebuild every year now. At no time last year were they bad but they were definitely better at the end of the season.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 5:36 pm to
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I think in a vacuum I'd prefer the 3-4, but at a place like LSU I lean more towards the 4-2-5 based on the type of athletes we recruit.



The numbers are different, but in the end the personnel is going to be relatively the same. LSU rarely played in a base 3-4 to begin with.

You have a big OLB that is like a DE. You have another that is your pass rusher who would usually also be a DE.

You have hybrid safeties like Jacoby Stevens that is like an extra LB in either alignment. So if you go to 4-2-5 you essentially have a 3rd LB regardless. If Chaisson or Arden Key are the 4th man on the line, does it really matter if his hand is down or he is standing up?


Key part of the article:

A college defense can get away with only have 1 pure edge rusher on the field for early downs. Most Tite front coordinators will bring in a 2nd or 3rd pass rusher when they can get the offense behind the sticks.
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