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I think COVID has opened eyes about cops...

Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:39 pm
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:39 pm
I feel like up until now most people would wager that cops would not obey an order to disarm the public if given the order.

I think the unprecedented overreach and enforcement of unconstitutional stay at home orders, to the point of ridiculousness, has made people realize that most cops would happily enforce such an order.

Has your mind been changed as a result of what we’ve seen in the last month?
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:41 pm to
It's a good point, but I think it depends where you live...the more rural, the less likely

Cities are the problem with everything
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19218 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:41 pm to
Mine has changed. Cannot believe some of the things the local governments are pulling out of their arse to outdo the other guy. It’s a race to see who can be the most proactive at taking away rights.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:41 pm to
I've known it all along.

Good to see some eyes being opened.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:42 pm to
I’m retired LEA, current LEO, and I agree with you 100%. I just posted that concern in another thread.

ETA: Before, I would have (and have) argued that over 50% would buck if it came to gun confiscation. I don’t think it’s anywhere near that number. Rural sheriffs are the most likely stop gap but not even they will be unanimous.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Dogwalk
Perkins, LA
Member since Jun 2016
1187 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:43 pm to
I have many friends who are cops...everyone of them will be shooting right along side us 2A defenders.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

have many friends who are cops...everyone of them will be shooting right along side us 2A defenders


I’m an LEO and no they won’t. This is sarcasm right?
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted by Dogwalk
Perkins, LA
Member since Jun 2016
1187 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:49 pm to
Congratulations On your LEO status. No, no sarcasm...can’t speak for all cops, but the ones I know would quit the force before getting into a shoot out over an unconstitutional order.
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:54 pm to
I did some reading on the Tiananmen Square incident. I recall reading that the Chinese government got troops from rural areas with the thought that they would not have any sympathy for the city protestors. I would imagine that our government will probably try to outsource the arms confiscation when it is time to do it.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72072 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:56 pm to
Outsource to who? Gueydan and Delcambre police?
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16445 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:57 pm to
They are not gonna disregard their only source of income...over your rights...
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

Outsource to who? Gueydan and Delcambre police?




The UN!
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:00 pm to
You ever hear of Blackwater? I am not saying that is the company that will do it, but companies that will do the government’s dirty work do exist. Mercenaries, hired guns. I am familiar with Blackwater, I am only mentioning them as an example.
Posted by Dogwalk
Perkins, LA
Member since Jun 2016
1187 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:04 pm to
Once again, I can’t speak for every cop. The cops I know have already stated, that yes, they will find a new job as opposed to going door to door enforcing gun confiscation. I don’t know why it’s so hard for some of you guys to understand, you can’t paint every cop with such a broad brush. Cuffing people for house parties is one thing, getting shot at for confiscating guns from every citizen for 30k a year...something completely different.
Posted by Bistineaubengal
Member since Aug 2008
840 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

Has your mind been changed as a result of what we’ve seen in the last month?


My mind was changed way back when these police departments started to accumulate all the "toys." Mraps, etc.

Cops are like little kids, they're not gonna let that toy sit it the box on the shelf.

They want any excuse to use them.

Just like the politicians will never let a good crisis go to waste.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

Has your mind been changed as a result of what we’ve seen in the last month?

Nope. Militarizing our police forces scares tf out of me.

If shite ever goes down, our police will do EXACTLY what they are told. Luckily, our military personnel might think twice.
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:06 pm to
I agree. U.N. troops could fit the bill. Years ago I worked with a dude from Arkansas that told me about seeing a lot of UN trucks and soldiers on that that Buffalo River, or something like that, area. I thought the guy was crazy. He told me it was a training ground for UN troops. This guy I am refering to worked in mechanical maintaince at the ANO nuclear plant in Russellville. He was a weird cat, religious and definitely a gun nut. I really don’t know if he was telling the truth or not.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16445 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:08 pm to
They are authoritarians that know they get to keep their guns and job. Most would do it in a heartbeat.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

My mind was changed way back when these police departments started to accumulate all the "toys." Mraps, etc.

Cops are like little kids, they're not gonna let that toy sit it the box on the shelf.

They want any excuse to use them.

Just like the politicians will never let a good crisis go to waste.


Yep. Your local sheriff or PD really have a lot of use for these things. That the FEDs have been passing out like candy.

Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:16 pm to
quote:


They are not gonna disregard their only source of income...over your rights...


Ones who will blindly follow errant leadership and/or court orders because the judge (or Governor) “said so” is a bigger concern with me than those beholden to the job for money. I see your point with better paid departments but not lower paid ones.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 11:19 pm
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