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re: There’s no way we have as many deaths as being reported

Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by frogglet
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:10 pm to
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Which would explain why the people dying are more or less within the typical life expectancy of the region, in some cases above the average life expectancy might be possible.

So.. old sick people are dying right on time. <-----


I've seen this a few times on here, but you should know that it's kind of misleading to think that average life expectancy of 80 means you expect people to die at age 80. Because it's an average that takes deaths at all ages into consideration, by the time someone survives all the way to age 79, they are not expected to die at age 80 anymore.

As an example, this site shows that a man aged 75 in the US would be expected to live another 11 years on average, despite the fact that the overall average life expectancy for that chart is 76, and was certainly much lower when the man was first born.

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So if a 75 yo man dies from covid19, that is still likely taking quite a few years of expected living away from him.
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:18 pm to
Don't try to present facts to him. He still believes the virus may not even exist at all.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:46 pm to
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I've seen this a few times on here, but you should know that it's kind of misleading to think that average life expectancy of 80 means you expect people to die at age 80. Because it's an average that takes deaths at all ages into consideration, by the time someone survives all the way to age 79, they are not expected to die at age 80 anymore. As an example, this site shows that a man aged 75 in the US would be expected to live another 11 years on average, despite the fact that the overall average life expectancy for that chart is 76, and was certainly much lower when the man was first born. LINK So if a 75 yo man dies from covid19, that is still likely taking quite a few years of expected living away from him.


Now figure in the pre-existing conditions, these people are probably on the low end of the curve with one or more pre-existing condition (either self-created or genetics). Worldwide the number is over 99% with one or more... they're the sick and old.

I don't have enough data on Spain, but there it actually looks like its possible that the average age of death from the beer disease is higher than the life expectancy age. Germany looks very similar... meaning people that die are older than the life expectancy.

I'm expecting many of these regions to actually increase in life expectancy this year. If one makes it 75-90 with some of these pre-existing conditions - nothing really out of the ordinary to me.

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Don't try to present facts to him. He still believes the virus may not even exist at all.


Technically, not sure he actually produced a fact, a theory maybe.

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So if a 75 yo man dies from covid19, that is still likely taking quite a few years of expected living away from him.


Technically you don't know if he would be still alive either way, at best its possibly shaving off a few hours, days or weeks. How is anyone going to measure that?

If you're diabetic and keep buying chips/cookies and you make it 80, I would thank your lucky stars.


This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 1:03 pm
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