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Simply having a New York license plate should not be probable cause for a stop.

Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:48 pm
All citizens have a constitutional right to travel. No Governor has the authority to close state borders or stop and interrogate people simply based on their license plate. Might seem like a laudable goal to stop the spread, but you give an inch and they take a mile. If society condones some rights being trampled, they can’t be surprised when others are too.

Unless you are breaking a law while traveling domestically, where you’re coming from and going to is no one’s business.
Posted by Zahrim
McCamey Texas
Member since Mar 2009
8029 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:56 pm to
can you site the clause in the constitution you are refering to. be specific please as it is important.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:57 pm to
I agree, but that same logic should apply to all road checkpoints. They're all violations of the 4th amendment.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:58 pm to
Article 4, Section 2, Clause 1.

quote:

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28158 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:59 pm to
They should be rounded up and sent back.

Build the wall!!!
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53711 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:59 pm to
they aren't using it as "probable cause"

this thing is being operated like a checkpoint
Posted by Stud
Member since Jan 2004
439 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:00 pm to
I will Cite for you what gives the federal government the exclusive authority to regulate it and therefore prohibits states from restricting it. AIS8C3.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:01 pm to
Well the first thing I’d ask if I’m being detained. The second they say no, I’m leaving the checkpoint.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35068 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:02 pm to
And the Fourth Amendment.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:02 pm to


You’re one of those that George Carlin talks about.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:08 pm to
My county is threatening to restrict movement in and out unless you can prove residency. Let’s ignore for a moment that my county officials can’t get this old man to stop selling his vegetables downtown and pretend they’re able to accomplish what they’re threatening to do. What happens the first time a resident doesn’t comply? They’re being very vague on what compliance and lack of actually means.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Article 4, Section 2, Clause 1.

quote:
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.



That's called getting fricking owned, zahrim...
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:10 pm to
State governments have no real ability to stop movement of Americans, generally speaking. Check points, can be made but they can't be used to stop interstate travel and commerce. Even the federal government has no or limited ability to stop free Americans from traveling from State to State.

The same nutjobs that wanted open country borders are the same nutjobs that don't know basic law as it pertains to the United States and want closed State borders. (the irony)
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:13 pm to
More arguments for strict interpretation of the constitution from someone who consistently advocates for a third Trump term.

Also, you’ve started multiple threads on this deprivation of rights nonsense and still can’t understand the idea of due process and non-absolute rights
Posted by Port Royal
You Name It , I've Been There
Member since Nov 2016
1811 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:13 pm to
Reckless Endangerment/Negligent Homocide is a probable cause.

What's the difference in being DUI and injuring or killing someone or leaving NYC and infecting 25 people who may or may not become ill and/or die.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30892 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

Might seem like a laudable goal to stop the spread, but you give an inch and they take a mile. If society condones some rights being trampled, they can’t be surprised when others are too.
The same can be said for gun laws, and a million other things.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

Reckless Endangerment/Negligent Homocide is a probable cause.

What's the difference in being DUI and injuring or killing someone or leaving NYC and infecting 25 people who may or may not become ill and/or die.


They can possibly setup check points those have to be for things like licensing. Furthermore, one State can't be setting up roadblocks to stop interstate commerce or stop Americans from traveling from State to State.

Now, if they have reason to believe someone has a disease than that person can be quarantined by order but that would pertain to their own citizens as well. Check points should not be used for that, and even than they have to reason to believe the person has a disease needing quarantine.

This isn't complex. The People have never really given government to stop movement, in a general sense, although interstate commerce using public rights can be somewhat regulated.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 7:19 pm
Posted by Zahrim
McCamey Texas
Member since Mar 2009
8029 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

That's called getting fricking owned, zahrim...


no its called having my question answered so i could use it against the libtards i deal with on a daily basis, you ignorant retard.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
16831 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:18 pm to
It’s probable cause for being a douchebag.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40913 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:20 pm to
Waxes poetic about constitutional rights in one thread, trashes one of the Constitution's biggest defenders in Thomas Massie in another thread. Kind of ironic.
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