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re: Daily COVID Updated as of 11/2/20 8:00 PM

Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:49 pm to
VL, the death rate (Mortality Rate) is dropping rapidly as testing & cases increase. This is due to the simple relationship between the rapidly growing number of total tests & cases vs. the much lower growth of deaths. I expect it to continue to decline to somewhere between .2% to .8% which I think is where the true mortality rate lies. Look at the mortality graph on the tracker...its a graph of the number you are talking about.



The other number, tests to cases reported, is also on the tracker with the title Positivity rate, ie how many tests are coming back positive. It is definitely increasing even though the raw volume of tests is increasing as well. That is potentially a bad sign.

I say potentially bad because the positivity rate can (and is) skewed by focusing our testing on symptomatic cases instead of a general sampling of the population.

There is some % of our population that has or has had the virus, we don't know what that % is at this point. We can draw conclusions on the growth of the outbreak by looking at the positivity rate and is it going up or down.

If the testing volume was fixed at 4.5M tests per week (fairly close to where we are now) and on week 1 we got 10% positive results, then on week 2 we got 10%, etc... we could make an educated guess that 10% of the population had the virus. If that positive test rate dipped, then we would know that the spread of the virus is slowing (Potentially). If that positive test rate increased, then it would obviously signal growth in the outbreak.

What we're currently seeing is testing volume going up and positivity rate going up at the same time, meaning the virus is spreading. When the positivity rate starts coming down is when we know the curve is starting to turn.

This chart shows you testing volume vs positivity rate.


You can clearly see that the positivity rate was very high early on when the testing volumes were low. Then as testing volume increased, the positivity rate declined until mid-June when it started climbing again. When that positivity rate line starts to decline, then we'll know the spread is slowing.




Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 1:45 pm to
I've heard one reason might be because negative tests aren't being reported
Posted by ifyoubuildit
Member since Jan 2018
179 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:37 pm to
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You can clearly see that the positivity rate was very high early on when the testing volumes were low. Then as testing volume increased, the positivity rate declined until mid-June when it started climbing again. When that positivity rate line starts to decline, then we'll know the spread is slowing.


What's happening is that when the rulers began to reopen society around late May/early June people were able to go back to work and other activities, many times with the stipulation that they be tested if they had any symptoms or if they had been exposed to anyone with symptoms. If they tested positive, they had to get at least one and sometimes two consecutive negative tests to be able to go back to work. Eager to rejoin society as soon as possible, many times when they tested to try to get a negative test the result came back as still positive, restarting the testing cycle. It is easy to see that one positive case of the China Virus could be counted as two, three, or even more. This has erroneously inflated the % positive numbers.

Of course no one is speaking of this and our country is going back to lockdown. I also see that no one is talking about the downward trend on fatalities, not just as a % of cases but also as an absolute number. This should by far be treated as the most important statistic.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27845 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:41 pm to
One caveat is that we have certain people that are getting multiple tests. We have some people in my organization that have gotten 5+ positive tests in the past 10 days trying to get a negative one. If we don’t assign a name to the test then this duplication is going to skew the numbers. Especially as countries or businesses may require a negative test to access.
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