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Posted on 3/24/20 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 2:17 pm to
So I didn’t quite get exactly what happened with Travis’ death. Was it a suicide on purpose or by accident? The build up before that scene seems to show Travis was very unstable and apparently methed the frick out all the time. Was he jokingly pointing the gun at his own head and accidentally pulled the trigger not thinking it would fire? Or did he know the gun would fire?
Posted by KirkLazarus
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 2:42 pm to
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Was he jokingly pointing the gun at his own head and accidentally pulled the trigger not thinking it would fire? Or did he know the gun would fire?



When does it become suicide. He was methed out all the time so his reasoning skills were shot. He probably had a death wish from depression related to it. False sense of confidence from the drugs. It just happens.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:17 am to
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So I didn’t quite get exactly what happened with Travis’ death. Was it a suicide on purpose or by accident? The build up before that scene seems to show Travis was very unstable and apparently methed the frick out all the time. Was he jokingly pointing the gun at his own head and accidentally pulled the trigger not thinking it would fire? Or did he know the gun would fire?


He was a candidate for suicide, but it looked like an accident. What he did is, unfortunately, not uncommon.

He had a semi-auto pistol with a round in the chamber. He took the magazine out and told the campaign manager how it was a Ruger so it would not fire with the magazine out. (The Texas Monthly article said Travis had read this on the internet.)

Well, most semi-autos will fire even with the magazine removed. Some models have what is called a magazine disconnect safety that prevents firing without the magazine. But it is only recently--due to dumbasses like Travis--that more gun makers have started to include it.

Ruger does include the feature on some models, but there are zillions of Rugers out there without it. Many owners disable the feature, so you can't assume it works in a given gun you pick up. The feature is disliked by many. American Rifleman article on magazine disconnects

A girl was killed in north LA a few years ago because a guy thought a Glock had a magazine disconnect. He was going to scare her, so he took the magazine out, pointed the gun at her and pulled the trigger. Boom! She's dead.

They should do public service announcements on TV showing how many pistols will fire even with the magazine removed. Too many people shoot themselves and others because of ignorance on the issue.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27256 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:46 am to
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So I didn’t quite get exactly what happened with Travis’ death. Was it a suicide on purpose or by accident?


I knew someone who died the exact same way. Pointed a gun at his head and said it wasn't loaded and blew his brains out. I always assumed it was essentially an accidental suicide, if that makes sense. Like the guy didn't care if it went off or not and was okay with either outcome. I got the same vibe from Travis.
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